From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:32:40 -0500 From: Dennis Lee Bieber Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:32:42 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn Message-ID: References: <87h8no1nli.fsf@nightsong.com> <874ljo1hvy.fsf@nightsong.com> <87vac4z2lh.fsf@nightsong.com> <87lgcszjdn.fsf@nightsong.com> <87sh6z1kkg.fsf@nightsong.com> <87k1sb1dt3.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 X-No-Archive: YES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.68.179.11 X-Trace: sv3-YtdXQLpN2sP68gEoogjmaZd1pzbJ6yOsJTpO6TUo/2vI18v4Uex6r+JYUODDQli2UY0XyQwwoAVFVmN!MM9Mldh83MSRl0AU3XEeWtjvRgJKV1NgpxiIckD+yI+ao3GRBk03uAeKBRVhw8haMvbhkQQOjfMd!RtaYL630geZo1u5Adm8oMszUSO0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2665 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52232 Date: 2018-05-10T19:32:42-04:00 List-Id: On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:00:24 -0700, Paul Rubin declaimed the following: >Dennis Lee Bieber writes: >> Then Ada has been doomed since 1980: >> "Designed by committee" (so was COBOL and it lasted) > >I don't see that as a problem: Haskell and Scheme were also designed by >committees and PL geeks are very fond of them. > All my quoted comments were paraphrases (hey, it's been nearly 40 years, my memory isn't that perfect) of statements seen already back in 1980. For my comparative language course (so small we met in a conference room) I used https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Ada-Introduction-Graduated-Prentice-Hall/dp/0137306970/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525994959&sr=8-1&keywords=ada+graduated+example and the SIGPlan preliminary RM for my presentation (following the students who'd chosen Algol and Pascal made it easy -- I could focus on the differences/improvements rather than reiterate the same basic language features) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/