From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:238:: with SMTP id u24mr36956870qkm.168.1593801094093; Fri, 03 Jul 2020 11:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:adc3:: with SMTP id w186mr26451784oie.51.1593801093877; Fri, 03 Jul 2020 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.35; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.35 References: <4d9fa282-830d-42f7-a3bf-ba127cb2ad06o@googlegroups.com> <76def2a5-667c-4009-b3b9-f0cf1c13a51bo@googlegroups.com> <3b5b2360-684c-4149-8662-98b53319cf94o@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada on Apple's new procesors From: Optikos Injection-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:31:34 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59331 List-Id: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 12:18:42 PM UTC-5, anti...@math.uni.wroc.pl wrot= e: > Simon Wright wrote: > > Simon Wright writes: > >=20 > > > "The LLVM code representation is designed to be used in three > > > different forms: as an in-memory compiler IR, as an on-disk bitcode > > > representation (suitable for fast loading by a Just-In-Time compiler)= , > > > and as a human readable assembly language representation", which to m= e > > > precisely matches "data in any format that is used as a compiler > > > intermediate representation, or used for producing a compiler > > > intermediate representation". > >=20 > > On thinking about this further, can't help wondering whether this is > > deliberate. >=20 > Why doubt? FSF clearly did not want what Apple is doing now. > Apple understood this well, left GCC developement and started > promoting LLVM. FSF lawyers formulated appropriate licencing > language. So the remaing question is if they did good job. > Basically folks here are searching for loophole. Loopholes happen, > but FSF was careful, so do not bet on this. These have been my exact concurring conclusions as well for over 2 years no= w, when I back then ceased coding up my own variant resembling what is now = known as GNAT-LLVM. Some of my design/coding work was hinted at in multipl= e of my postings here on c.l.a. back then. I figured out these =E2=80=A2= =E2=80=A2chilling effects=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 on my own over 2 years ago.