From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.155.132 with SMTP id j4mr5166770yhk.56.1405779127706; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:12:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.80.229 with SMTP id c92mr171728qgd.5.1405779127689; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!j15no1521277qaq.0!news-out.google.com!cz11ni6302qab.1!nntp.google.com!v10no1455158qac.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:12:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9a51b46f-c70e-4266-9b44-dfb50c8a7191@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=92.109.179.4; posting-account=uePmQwoAAADTqdMkQ5mqQNa8zVpjxCa1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 92.109.179.4 References: <9a51b46f-c70e-4266-9b44-dfb50c8a7191@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family? From: gvdschoot@gmail.com Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:12:07 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2024 X-Received-Body-CRC: 468350136 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:21057 Date: 2014-07-19T07:12:07-07:00 List-Id: I think there is also another issue. C, like Microsoft, has the benefit of that there is only *one*. Linux, the kernel, has that benefit too. But there are *lots* of Linux dist= ros. There are also *lots* of alternatives for C, but none of them is the defaul= t. If we could just pick one, the problem would be solved in a couple of years= . But looking at the new generation of languages, there you see Rust, Go, D= and Swift. Even at that level there is no cooperation or even a clear choi= ce, but they are all doing roughly the same. My "choice" for simplicity would be Oberon, because it solves *all* issues = with C, without adding functionality. The problem with Ada is that it is ob= ese and requires a big compiler, like C++.