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From: Thomas <fantome.forums.tDeContes@free.fr.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada and Unicode
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:51:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fantome.forums.tDeContes-079FD6.18515603042022@news.free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f9d91cb0-c9bb-4d42-a1a9-0cd546da436cn@googlegroups.com

In article <f9d91cb0-c9bb-4d42-a1a9-0cd546da436cn@googlegroups.com>,
 Vadim Godunko <vgodunko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 1:03:14 AM UTC+3, DrPi wrote:

> > What's the way to manage Unicode correctly ? 
> > 
> 
> Ada doesn't have good Unicode support. :( So, you need to find suitable set 
> of "workarounds".
> 
> There are few different aspects of Unicode support need to be considered:
> 
> 1. Representation of string literals. If you want to use non-ASCII characters 
> in source code, you need to use -gnatW8 switch and it will require use of 
> Wide_Wide_String everywhere.
> 2. Internal representation during application execution. You are forced to 
> use Wide_Wide_String at previous step, so it will be UCS4/UTF32.

> It is hard to say that it is reasonable set of features for modern world.

I don't think Ada would be lacking that much, for having good UTF-8 
support.

the cardinal point is to be able to fill a 
Ada.Strings.UTF_Encoding.UTF_8_String with a litteral.
(once you got it, when you'll try to fill a Standard.String with a 
non-Latin-1 character, it'll make an error, i think it's fine :-) )

does Ada 202x allow it ?

if not, it would probably be easier if it was
    type UTF_8_String is new String;
instead of
    subtype UTF_8_String is String;


for all subprograms it's quite easy:
we just have to duplicate them with the new type, and to mark the old 
one as Obsolescent.

but, now that "subtype UTF_8_String" exists, i don't know what we can do 
for types.
(is the only way to choose a new name?)


> To 
> fix some of drawbacks of current situation we are developing new text 
> processing library, know as VSS. 
> 
> https://github.com/AdaCore/VSS

(are you working at AdaCore ?)

-- 
RAPID maintainer
http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/rapid/

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-03 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-17 22:03 Ada and Unicode DrPi
2021-04-18  0:02 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19  9:09   ` DrPi
2021-04-19  8:29 ` Maxim Reznik
2021-04-19  9:28   ` DrPi
2021-04-19 13:50     ` Maxim Reznik
2021-04-19 15:51       ` DrPi
2021-04-19 11:15   ` Simon Wright
2021-04-19 11:50     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19 15:53     ` DrPi
2022-04-03 19:20     ` Thomas
2022-04-04  6:10       ` Vadim Godunko
2022-04-04 14:19         ` Simon Wright
2022-04-04 15:11           ` Simon Wright
2022-04-05  7:59           ` Vadim Godunko
2022-04-08  9:01             ` Simon Wright
2023-03-30 23:35         ` Thomas
2022-04-04 14:33       ` Simon Wright
2021-04-19  9:08 ` Stephen Leake
2021-04-19  9:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-19 11:56   ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19 12:13     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19 15:48       ` DrPi
2021-04-19 12:52     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-19 13:00       ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19 13:10         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-19 13:15           ` Luke A. Guest
2021-04-19 13:31             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-04-03 17:24               ` Thomas
2021-04-19 13:24         ` J-P. Rosen
2021-04-20 19:13           ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-03 18:04           ` Thomas
2022-04-06 18:57             ` J-P. Rosen
2022-04-07  1:30               ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-08  8:56                 ` Simon Wright
2022-04-08  9:26                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-04-08 19:19                     ` Simon Wright
2022-04-08 19:45                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-04-09  4:05                         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-09  7:43                           ` Simon Wright
2022-04-09 10:27                           ` DrPi
2022-04-09 16:46                             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2022-04-09 18:59                               ` DrPi
2022-04-10  5:58                             ` Vadim Godunko
2022-04-10 18:59                               ` DrPi
2022-04-12  6:13                               ` Randy Brukardt
2021-04-19 16:07         ` DrPi
2021-04-20 19:06         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-03 18:37           ` Thomas
2022-04-04 23:52             ` Randy Brukardt
2023-03-31  3:06               ` Thomas
2023-04-01 10:18                 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-04-19 16:14   ` DrPi
2021-04-19 17:12     ` Björn Lundin
2021-04-19 19:44       ` DrPi
2022-04-16  2:32   ` Thomas
2021-04-19 13:18 ` Vadim Godunko
2022-04-03 16:51   ` Thomas [this message]
2023-04-04  0:02     ` Thomas
2021-04-19 22:40 ` Shark8
2021-04-20 15:05   ` Simon Wright
2021-04-20 19:17     ` Randy Brukardt
2021-04-20 20:04       ` Simon Wright
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