From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7dc7:: with SMTP id c7mr4138955qte.0.1632812139240; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1549:: with SMTP id r9mr5232285ybu.204.1632812138963; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:55:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2001:861:45c0:dd00:55c2:ed91:dfd4:ad96; posting-account=6yLzewoAAABoisbSsCJH1SPMc9UrfXBH NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:861:45c0:dd00:55c2:ed91:dfd4:ad96 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? From: Emmanuel Briot Injection-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 06:55:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62849 List-Id: I must admit I fail to see your point in this thread: as far as I know, ASI= S has never worked for recent versions of the language (standard was never = updated), and AdaCore doesn't not evolve it anymore.=20 Yes, that unfortunately means that tools like AdaControl will stop working = at some point (you can certainly distribute prebuilt binaries for a while, = but for anyone using new language constructs, what happens ?). This being open-source software, you could adopt the maintenance of ASIS yo= urself (or ask other people in the Ada community to help with that). But th= is is of course a significant endeavor (then again, if you are not ready to= do that yourself, why would you expect a commercial company like AdaCore t= o do it on your behalf ?) ASIS has not disappeared. It is still (and forever) in the history of the g= cc tree. It is just not available on the main branch anymore because there = are no more maintainers for it. Just like a lot of obsolete platforms no lo= nger supported by gcc itself, or by the linux kernel for instance. This is = the way open-source software lives and dies. Going to back to a more technical discussion, would you highlight why a lib= rary like libadalang is not appropriate for AdaControl. I have developed a = few code-generation tools based on it. To me, the main issue is the bad doc= umentation, which leaves a lot of trial-and-error to find which nodes are r= elevant when. Besides that, it seems to be fine with any code I have sent i= ts way. Maybe, rather than trying to maintain your own ASIS patches, it would be ni= ce to develop an ASIS API that uses libadalang underneath (I do not know mu= ch about ASIS to be honest, so this might be a stupid suggestion). Emmanuel