From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:03:49 +0300 Organization: Tidorum Ltd Message-ID: References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> <06a8980d-21bb-4067-b22d-7d1f89342948@googlegroups.com> <19c7a205-0a82-477b-9254-01af786f467e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net pDxSUg4oPliDVr+eJA1+hAVQoyOXrtQfLA6W9kYN8Vx7/SkXSh Cancel-Lock: sha1:di1YtoGgUWFRuA9wx6PIovUkfGA= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 In-Reply-To: <19c7a205-0a82-477b-9254-01af786f467e@googlegroups.com> Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51621 Date: 2018-04-19T00:03:49+03:00 List-Id: On 18-04-18 20:08 , Lucretia wrote: > On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 15:31:26 UTC+1, Dan'l Miller wrote: > >> Survey: truly how bad is using FSF GNAT in practice? I used it exclusively for about 10 years for a commercial, closed-source product. It was ok, but I deliberately stayed away from the newest language features until they had been stable in GNAT Pro for a while. Also, I used only the basic compiler, and neither GPS nor any of the surrounding tool-sets for databases, GUIs, etc. >> I think that the real problem with AdaCore is the lack of sub-$1000 >> non-GPL annual license for mass-market operating systems on >> mass-market ISAs, such as Windows, MacOS, Android, and iOS. Janus/Ada and some versions of ObjectAda are or were in that range, but have not, I believe, sold in "mass-market" numbers. > Other compiler vendor's won't do shit for OSS, the only reason > AdaCore do is because they started at NYU and was spun out as a > separate company, AIUI, making the compiler open-source (maybe even GPL) was a condition in the original government contract that NYU won and which produced the first GNAT. -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .