From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Latest suggestion for 202x Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:24:13 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Message-ID: References: <728c4668-8fa0-4a57-a502-2bf476fc3940@googlegroups.com> <4908c3e3-18dc-4953-bf26-46f160d2ebfd@googlegroups.com> <9dcf22a2-2255-4089-b1f0-93e31448415e@googlegroups.com> <86h88obeu0.fsf@gaheris.avalon.lan> <39e749cd-de5c-44fa-b8ec-50d36f3bd52c@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="caa34a360db6aaf02b280eb2c1355383"; logging-data="16565"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/MSZJo0apHFqMJYNl1XsmV" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M9shx1kHFR+cD3TQt9j0lGN9jMg= sha1:TD2TzmwzOIWK3LlCRGcaGWNQ7os= Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:56705 Date: 2019-06-21T13:24:13-07:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > On 2019-06-21 20:12, Keith Thompson wrote: >> I *can't* replace A by a function without modifying the code that uses >> it. > > In short if I can't do something then I don't need it, sour grapes... > >> I suppose containers weaken that argument > > No, it is no argument regardless. > > If Ada has problems with array abstraction, and it has, that is > irrelevant to the point that this is the *same* abstraction. > > A language that syntactically distinguish array calls and function calls > breaks the abstraction or lacks it completely. Is breaking that abstraction such a bad thing? Why *should* array indexing and function calls be treated as the same thing? What about record component selection? What operations *aren't* function calls? But please don't overestimate how much I care about this. In my opinion, it's really not that big a deal. I personally like brackets better than parentheses for array indexing, but I have no particular problem with Ada's choice. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org Will write code for food. void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */