From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog4.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:02:08 -0700 Organization: Also freenews.netfront.net; news.tornevall.net; news.eternal-september.org Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> <5ebe316d-cd84-40fb-a983-9f953f205fef@googlegroups.com> <2100734262424129975.133931laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <665318547424646901.823673laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="ba346f17b503f6aa8ecbfd6d1e2a9f59"; logging-data="23178"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19vzzGqaJ+C9wZEfH8Tm2Wu6UG3PdWUCcI=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <665318547424646901.823673laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> Cancel-Lock: sha1:+ubxUb/VhKKlojAa2EebkHVaA98= X-Original-Bytes: 3077 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186988 Date: 2014-06-16T16:02:08-07:00 List-Id: On 06/16/2014 02:31 PM, Luke A. Guest wrote: > > I meant available to a general user or beginner. Also, I meant those that > do not use someone else's front end as I understand a lot of the Ada > compilers available (at extreme cost) are the same front end. Please don't spread FUD. > Therefore 1) not many available for free or less than a couple I hundred > quid and even that is too much for a lot of people, 2) not many independent > implementations. C's overriding design principle appears to have been ease of compiler implementation. The result was a very badly designed language with lots of implementations. Since the implementations are mostly crappy, they're free. (How crappy? Before it was bought by TI, there was a company called Tartan that made most of its money by selling C compilers for systems that came with a free C compiler.) Comparing crappy compilers for a crappy language to decent compilers for a well designed language makes no sense. > Can't believe we have to spell this shit out constantly on this group. Can't believe you still think "Ada compiler" means "free, high-quality, independently implemented Ada compiler with a complete run-time library". -- Jeff Carter "Saving keystrokes is the job of the text editor, not the programming language." Preben Randhol 64