From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.snarked.org!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tero Koskinen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 10:03:08 +0300 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <72b1318a-2eb6-4129-af9b-5bcfbb329c5b@googlegroups.com> <3889b2f4-b7c4-4fb0-9f37-6fc56400b1d7@googlegroups.com> <87wqbqxt39.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 188-67-184-223.bb.dnainternet.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1404716591 28192 188.67.184.223 (7 Jul 2014 07:03:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 07:03:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:187413 Date: 2014-07-07T10:03:08+03:00 List-Id: 6.7.2014 22:03, Dan'l Miller wrote: > On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:03:38 PM UTC-5, Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> Dan'l Miller writes: >>> The path to Ada popularity: More special sauces for more niche markets >>> that cause wounds in other languages' Achilles' heals to fester. >> >> Agreed. Show us the code, then. That's what Linus Torvalds keeps >> saying, and he is right about that. >> > > Hmmmm. That sounds more like a "put up or shut up" shutdown of an individual who dares to speak than like "Hey, let's as a community brainstorm what an even better Ada world would look like", which is what was intended. > My favorite form of this is "Shut up and Hack" by OpenBSD (see http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#audio_extra51 ). If you want someone to adopt Ada before 202x, you cannot rely on discussion about upcoming features. Instead, make other areas, like the available libraries, better. Yours, Tero