From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:15:02 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8a38cb94ad0539ac39e98a2026d96147"; logging-data="26950"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+P936FRCtSUK2vhrBCavTB7Nnyn6csWXI=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Nk7DW3+Hs71ur658XA9ZFzZUfzE= sha1:jZyyXZhAMh8TslAjOlcykNJj5AI= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51674 Date: 2018-04-22T21:15:02+01:00 List-Id: invalid writes: > On 2018-04-18, Simon Wright wrote: >> invalid writes: >> >>> And it's all based on Robert Dewar's work that was paid for by >>> U.S. grants funded by American Tax Dollars. The guy was a genius in >>> more ways than one. >>> >>> This situation is not just bad, it's offensive. >> >> Pretty sure that GCC was chosen for entirely practical reasons (who >> in government would want to pay to re-write multiple code generators >> from scratch?) which meant GPL. > > Not sure why you brought gcc into the discussion, and at one time I > knew more about the history of gnat than I can remember now. I must > have blocked it out. As you remember gnat 3.15p was not GPL and still > had the full runtime exemption. I brought GCC into the discussion because GNAT uses the GCC back-end for the actual code generation as it has always done. I just downloaded 3.15p sources (from Sourceforge; google it if you want) and the compiler was, as it is now, pure GPL. From e.g. par-ch2.adb, -- Copyright (C) 1992-2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. -- -- -- -- GNAT is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under -- -- terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Soft- -- -- ware Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later ver- -- -- sion. GNAT is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITH- -- etc. The runtime sources were GPLv2 with the GMGPL exception; just as now for supported or FSF releases they have the GCC Runtime Library exception. > Whether Adacore is GPL or not (and it > is somehow not for the companies that buy *cough* support for it > *cough*) is not related to using gcc. I don't know what snarky point you're trying to make with your coughing. Seems pretty invalid to me, like your username.