From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.6k1R0IQgF+3y+m4EkNohlQ.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 08:34:36 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <3baf4a73-aae7-4f99-9786-ba5153118c81@googlegroups.com> <1ab5756b-81d8-4b2f-80ff-feeca5270903@googlegroups.com> <01871512-1aa7-4672-9642-6feb659a9d60@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 6k1R0IQgF+3y+m4EkNohlQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (darwin) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:cn1OKK6+8S5qrbYlLeWia4jswxs= Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:58724 Date: 2020-05-18T08:34:36+01:00 List-Id: Optikos writes: > On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:20:07 PM UTC-5, Simon Wright wrote: >> Optikos writes: >> >> > On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 1:00:10 PM UTC-5, Simon Wright wrote: >> >> Optikos writes: [...] >> > repeated from the thread above: >> > https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/six-questions-that-neil-ferguson-should-be-asked/amp >> > >> > and links therein. >> >> First reactions: Not a huge fan of the Spectator, and certainly not of >> that journalist who "is The Spectator's gossip columnist, serving up the >> latest tittle tattle from Westminster and beyond". > > Hence why I overtly stated “and links therein”. Are you likewise not > a fan of The Telegraph and its Katherine Rushton and Daniel Faggo? Absolutely not a fan of the "Torygraph" > Are you likewise not a fan of Breitbart and its James Delingpole? Well-known Brexit fanboys, which evidence suggests they're best ignored > Here is a linked-therein critique of Ferguson's model dating back to > foot-&-mouth disease era: > https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/files/14288330/Use_and_abuse_of_mathematical_models_an_illustration_from_the_2001_foot_and_mouth_disease_epidemic_in_the_United_Kingdom.pdf That's a [probably justified] criticism of the use of Ferguson &co's modelling teams' work. Not a criticism of Ferguson's model as used recently, which - at 13 yars old - started 6 years after the 2001 FMD outbreak. > Perhaps ad hominem against the gossip columnist is not especially > warranted in this case in a don't-kill-the-messenger moral of the > story. He writes under the byline that I quoted > Again I reiterate from a prior reply above, these writings in the > popular press and the critical-thinking press set a degree of > expectation for an Ada model of pandemic forecasting to perhaps live > up to, if they have merit. The Edinburgh article recommends not using modelling at all prior to/during an outbreak, only afterwards