From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c406e0c4a6eb74ed X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!feed3.news.rcn.net!not-for-mail Sender: jsa@rigel.goldenthreadtech.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ADA Popularity Discussion Request References: <49dc98cf.0408110556.18ae7df@posting.google.com> <6F2Yc.848$8d1.621@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <413e2fbd$0$30586$626a14ce@news.free.fr> <9snhizowcwg9.16smaxkxhyu67$.dlg@40tude.net> <1m4nnmjq31u5p.1ufrf06w53qsz.dlg@40tude.net> From: jayessay Organization: Tangible Date: 08 Sep 2004 19:31:14 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: DXC=@C:KXJ7HAHco?iRBY^D>:kc^aM2i8keRmm0F?>=G42]gb X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3516 Date: 2004-09-08T19:31:14-04:00 List-Id: Bj�rn Persson writes: > Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > > > From this > > perspective, dynamically typed systems are subset of statical ones. No. You are confusing dynamically typed with _UN_typed. > > This is > > important to understand. This is also the reason why "truly dynamic" people > > sooner or later start to argue against types. None that I know. If you look at what "truly dynamic" people are saying over on c.l.l, c.l.python, c.l.smalltalk, etc. you would know just how wrong you are. > > Because, take a static > > language, derive everything from same base, and you will have the case, > > where the type information would be as useless (at compile time) as in a > > dynamically typed language. Static typing does not make type information > > unavailable. It makes it in some cases a-priory known. > > That's an interesting point. In Java, all classes are derived from > Object. Yet I find type information useful in Java. But if all > parameters of all methods were declared as Object, then it would start > to look like a dynamically typed language. Egads, no! It would begin to look _UN_typed! Please try to get a grip on this. /Jon -- 'j' - a n t h o n y at romeo/charley/november com