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From: "Gautier Write-only-address" <gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com>
To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
Subject: Re: 'Cyclone', a safer C--reinventing the wheel
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:37:14 +0000
Date: 2001-11-20T18:37:14+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1006281573.32296.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)

>From: "chris.danx" <chris.danx@ntlworld.com>

>Hmm, I'm getting fed up with posts like this.
>The frequency of posts like this has increased alot in recent
>months, and I'm sick of it.

You are right about the form - "C bashings" - and maybe that
Cyclone will help to improve things in areas where everything
is already programmed in C, and debug legacy code whose
programmers are maybe already dead (there are already pieces
of C code programmed 30 yers ago).

However the article is interesting in that it tends to
state that the only way to program systems is in C,
so to program safely, you have to "add security" to C.
"The idea is to take good security ideas from higher level
languages and implement them at a lower level", says a Cornell researcher. 
It's their right, since they live
from this project.

But the journalist should take distance and propose to
compare the alternatives
  1. improve C with higher language ideas
  2. use the higher languages

(1. seems to me "un empl�tre sur une jambe de bois" <- french)
It's worth a feedback to New Scientist.
Surely the vast majority of programmers, who don't use C
or its derivates, will find the article fun.
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             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-20 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-20 18:37 Gautier Write-only-address [this message]
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2001-11-22 13:33 'Cyclone', a safer C--reinventing the wheel Gautier Write-only-address
2001-11-22 17:04 ` James Rogers
2001-11-20 23:29 Gautier Write-only-address
2001-11-21 15:30 ` Wes Groleau
2001-11-20 12:36 Marc A. Criley
2001-11-20 12:51 ` Peter Amey
2001-11-20 14:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-20 15:31   ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-20 16:22     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-20 16:47       ` Wes Groleau
2001-11-20 16:30 ` chris.danx
2001-11-20 16:54   ` Wes Groleau
2001-11-20 19:49     ` chris.danx
2001-11-20 21:28       ` Wes Groleau
2001-11-20 22:36         ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-21  9:20       ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-22  0:32         ` chris.danx
2001-11-22  7:57           ` AG
2001-11-21 12:46       ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-22 11:46     ` IsraelRT
2001-11-22 12:24       ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-23  9:19         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-11-22 16:06       ` chris.danx
2001-11-20 17:18   ` Pascal Obry
2001-11-20 22:21   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-21 14:27     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-22  9:27     ` chris.danx
2001-11-22 21:41       ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-20 17:09 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-21  1:50   ` Mike Silva
2001-11-21 22:47     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-22  0:00       ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-22  0:42         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-26 10:42           ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-27  8:28             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-27 15:21               ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-27 16:51                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-28 18:23                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-24 15:17                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-23  6:46       ` Mike Silva
2001-11-23  7:13         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-22 11:42 ` IsraelRT
2001-11-22 13:45   ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-22 17:24     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-23 14:53       ` Marc A. Criley
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