From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-15 08:36:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!freenix!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: Future with Ada Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:35:11 -0800 Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 1008434162 55362 137.194.161.2 (15 Dec 2001 16:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:36:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Return-Path: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3C1AA877.914DB6EF@adaworks.com> Importance: Normal Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17951 Date: 2001-12-15T08:35:11-08:00 From: Bob Leif, To: Richard Riehle et al. One way to quickly extend Ada's functionality is to annex (pun intended) XML. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Richard Riehle Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:34 PM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Future with Ada James Rogers wrote: > That is the route taken for the Java Abstract Windowing Toolkit (AWT). > In Java 2 the Java Foundation Classes were added. Among those classes > is the Swing GUI toolkit. Swing components are mostly implemented only > in Java. This allows programs to provide a consistent look and feel > across target platforms. It also provides a much slower GUI > interaction due to the inherent performance problems of Java. Just finished teaching an Ada class to twenty programmers who already know Java. Lots of positive responses. However, the consensus was that it would be nice to have an intelligent development environment similar to that available in Java as well as an easier set of libraries such as the one they learned when learning Java. I certainly don't want Ada to become Java. However, there are some positive lessons to be learned from Java. We already understand that C++ is a gigantic step backward. Ada can be a gigantic step forward when the development environments and tools are as friendly as those currently available for Java (or even Visual Basic). These students understand that the superiority of a programming language does count for much when the tools for development are still immature. Richard Riehle