From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c406e0c4a6eb74ed X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Marius Amado Alves Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Formal and informal type systems? Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:31:22 +0100 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <49dc98cf.0408110556.18ae7df@posting.google.com> <413e2fbd$0$30586$626a14ce@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1096371105 63700 212.85.156.195 (28 Sep 2004 11:31:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:31:45 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2004 11:31:28.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1C47190:01C4A54E] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4319 Date: 2004-09-28T12:31:22+01:00 > :> Some things I miss in Ada that are available in ML: Higher order > :> functions, pattern matching and tuples. > > [GNAT.SPITBOL] > > Maybe the phrase "argument pattern matching" should be substituted > for "pattern matching" outside "functional communities", to avoid > misunderstandings. Maybe. I was kind of teasing. I suggested GNAT.Spitbol but I may as well suggest my package Patterns (wait for the secret URL) which support pattern matching of strings of any type of component. And this structure subsumes tuples, no? > but functions cannot carry their environments with them, to the same > extent? Use formal packages then :-) Now, my understanding of what you guys are saying equates to a (non-existing) way in Ada to reflect on record structure, be it by conversion to array or other device. I think that this would require a lot of reflection, probably to the degree of dynamic creation of types. A MOP (Meta-Object Protocol) essentially. Maybe OpenAda does it. I'm not sure about the effect of this on the Ada-ilities.