From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c406e0c4a6eb74ed X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!enst.fr!melchior!cuivre.fr.eu.org!melchior.frmug.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ADA Popularity Discussion Request Date: 06 Sep 2004 17:01:59 -0400 Organization: Cuivre, Argent, Or Message-ID: References: <49dc98cf.0408110556.18ae7df@posting.google.com> <6F2Yc.848$8d1.621@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelace.ada-france.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org 1094504534 790 212.85.156.195 (6 Sep 2004 21:02:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 21:02:14 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org Return-Path: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ada-france.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Gateway to the comp.lang.ada Usenet newsgroup" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3399 Date: 2004-09-06T17:01:59-04:00 kevin.cline@gmail.com (Kevin Cline) writes: > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:... > > In article , "Richard Riehle" writes: > > > > > No one argues that testing is unimportant. > > > > > No language can protect us, at compile time, from every possible > > > error. > > > > But assuming perfect testing, finding the errors during compilation > > rather than in testing saves me time, and time is money. > > I thought so too, until I tried incremental test-first development. > Retesting a unit after adding a few lines of code means that type > mismatches are caught immediately with or without strong typing. But > it goes faster if you don't have to compile and link every iteration. Hmm. I practice "test first" and incremental code/test. But I don't write tests that duplicate what the compiler is already testing; that would certainly be a waste of my time! It takes me much longer to write and test code in C than in Ada. I suppose Haskell or something might be even better, but I'm waiting for an ISO standard language that I can buy support for. -- -- Stephe