From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4368e7c7118de06c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny08.POSTED!c2bfcbcf!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ICFP2004 results are in References: <4150C42D.9070009@acm.org> <4151957C.3030800@acm.org> <87acvifbyk.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> Message-ID: From: "Ed Falis" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Opera M2/7.60 (Linux, build 793) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:42:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.160.156.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny08 1095874920 68.160.156.42 (Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:42:00 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:42:00 EDT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3951 Date: 2004-09-22T17:42:00+00:00 List-Id: On 22 Sep 2004 19:30:27 +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > Well, compared to languages such as SmallTalk, Ada lacks a good > true refactoring editor for example, which is a must for agile > development and extreme programming. I disagree. A refactoring editor is nice to have, but definitely not a must to use agile methods. Remember, they didn't exist when XP was being developed. - Ed