From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4368e7c7118de06c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny01.POSTED!c2bfcbcf!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ICFP2004 results are in References: <4150C42D.9070009@acm.org> <4151957C.3030800@acm.org> <87acvifbyk.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> Message-ID: From: "Ed Falis" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Opera M2/7.60 (Linux, build 793) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:41:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.160.156.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny01 1095903717 68.160.156.42 (Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:41:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:41:57 EDT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3983 Date: 2004-09-23T01:41:57+00:00 List-Id: Rod, I'm sure you know I have nothing against modern, jazzy environments (I still think VisualAge was about the best I've ever seen). My difference with Sam was just one of necessity for being able to use agile methods vs desirability. - Ed