From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!newsfeed.xs3.de!io.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!franka.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED.rrsoftware.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 21:59:56 -0500 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> <87k1su7nag.fsf@nightsong.com> <87po2la2qt.fsf@nightsong.com><87in8buttb.fsf@jacob-sparre.dk> <87wowqpowu.fsf@nightsong.com><16406268-83df-4564-8855-9bd0fe9caac0@googlegroups.com> <87o9i2pkcr.fsf@nightsong.com> Injection-Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 02:59:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: franka.jacob-sparre.dk; posting-host="rrsoftware.com:24.196.82.226"; logging-data="21189"; mail-complaints-to="news@jacob-sparre.dk" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.7246 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51860 Date: 2018-04-30T21:59:56-05:00 List-Id: "Paul Rubin" wrote in message news:87o9i2pkcr.fsf@nightsong.com... ... > Sure, that's like C++ smart pointers and containers. I'm familiar with > the approach and it's nice for some purposes, but it still needs a lot > of attention, and constrains your style quite a lot. Which is a good thing. It escapes me why spaghetti code is long since considered a bad thing, but writing spaghetti data is some sort of necessity. "Smart pointers" are rather kick-the-can; the only sensible solution is no pointers. If Ada didn't constrain the sensible ways to get things done, I would literally never get anything done. (That was the main reason I came to Ada in the first place, to save my from myself in an anything goes environment.) Randy.