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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
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Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm??
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 16:24:06 -0500
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"Paul Rubin" <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
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> "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
>> The problem comes (in any design) when you start using references
>> rather than the actual objects;... and that way leads to madness (or
>> GC, roughly equivalent ;-).
>
> Yes, that's the point, you end up learning to love the GC, or at least
> live with it.

No, you learn to avoid references -- they're rarely needed. And everything 
is better off without them. People who can't design without them are the 
problem - not Ada's (or any other language, for that matter) memory 
management.

                  Randy.