From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!newsfeed.xs3.de!io.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!franka.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED.rrsoftware.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Teaching C/C++ from Ada perspective? Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:14:31 -0500 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <856189aa-fa00-4960-929e-174f352310ad@googlegroups.com> <2718c8d4-5f35-4fd8-a1aa-1e60069a7a5d@googlegroups.com> <39fce60c-9f56-42fb-b679-fa08810b00ee@googlegroups.com> <3701bf07-89a5-4cb0-a704-5aebb589ca79@googlegroups.com> <2f5e4ce0-94e8-4b94-9da7-045ec90a9b22@googlegroups.com> <9bb99fb4-b9c7-4516-97b5-da41466e96be@googlegroups.com> <1162d6bf-c226-4089-ae2e-870c7da9c80f@googlegroups.com> <2f5399b4-518b-4a2e-9941-2ae267d51309@googlegroups.com> <1ab5db5c-7892-40a8-ae36-ca1ec1168768@googlegroups.com> <0001HW.20F291E2002A542F70000C5E92CF@news.individual.net> <877d0a01-d342-433c-a541-3662736ae857@googlegroups.com> Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:14:32 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: franka.jacob-sparre.dk; posting-host="rrsoftware.com:24.196.82.226"; logging-data="3618"; mail-complaints-to="news@jacob-sparre.dk" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.7246 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53765 Date: 2018-07-10T18:14:31-05:00 List-Id: "Dan'l Miller" wrote in message news:877d0a01-d342-433c-a541-3662736ae857@googlegroups.com... ... >I strongly suspect that was because of universities' desire for finding >favor in >AT&T's eyes regarding coveted Unix licenses (pre-1984) and regarding >POSIX (post-1986) was a big part of that. Sometimes AT&T's largess >walked in through the frontdoor of the revenue-generating admissions >office: > for approximately a decade, vast quantities of AT&T's white-collar > workforce >was offered free tuition and lavish 18-month sabbatical to get their master >degrees, fully paid for by corporate. Low thousands of employees signed >up. That was certainly my experience. About half of my graduate school classmates (1980-83) were from Bell Labs. Not coincidentally, almost all of the haardware at the University of Wisconsin ran some form of Unix. (The outlier was the giant Unisys mainframe, which was rapidly being replaced by VAXes.) Of course, we had one professor who was interested in Ada, who got tapped to teach one single semester of the compiler construction course, and thus used an Ada-subset as the language for the class-project. And that happened to be the semester that my roomate Isaac and I took the compiler construction course, so we build a compiler for an Ada-subset. And my frustration with the crappy languages available for the various early PCs that we worked on led to deciding to build and sell a compiler for a better language that we were familiar with. The rest is history. So far as I know, nothing at UW ever used Ada again. Almost like it happened solely to give me a career... Randy.