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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Visibility of Indexing aspects
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 15:56:57 -0500
Date: 2018-08-03T15:56:57-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pk2fiq$2nq$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dc0f1491-0e8c-43c5-a78f-e32d59df5f03@googlegroups.com

"Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:dc0f1491-0e8c-43c5-a78f-e32d59df5f03@googlegroups.com...
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 3:31:18 PM UTC-5, Randy Brukardt wrote:
...
>> My point is that a programmer that truly cares about performance (and
>> hopefully that will only be concerning in a few critical situations) 
>> would
>> avoid using Reference at all if there isn't a need to update-in-place 
>> part
>> of the element. That is, one would still use the underlying operations, 
>> but
>> individually rather than all automatically as part of a set.

>In the above-mentioned case of prohibiting 4 of the 5, the programmer
>seeks not performance improvement.

Better programmers don't worry about performance all of the time, but 
*everyone* has to worry about it some of the time.

>The programmer seeks proscribing the retention of certain* data and
>structure by the outside-of-this-package world-topics which the
>outside-of-this-package world has no business retaining or using directly
>or abusing, ...

This is an utterly false statement; there is plenty of reasons to use the 
various parts directly; specifically for improved performance. Almost 
everything used in the indexing operations previously existed in the Ada 
2005 version of the container, after all.

So, since you're starting with a pair of fallicies, the rest of what you 
have to say is irrelevant. ("if False then anything" is a true [and useless] 
statement.)

                                            Randy.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-03 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-02 20:31 Visibility of Indexing aspects Randy Brukardt
2018-08-03  0:43 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-08-03 20:56   ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2018-08-03 21:32     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-08-06 21:46       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-08-06 22:12         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-08-07 15:13         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-08-07 22:41           ` Randy Brukardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-07-14 14:18 Jere
2018-07-14 17:04 ` Shark8
2018-07-14 18:29   ` Jere
2018-07-14 18:41     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-14 23:00     ` Shark8
2018-07-14 23:28       ` Jere
2018-07-15 14:41 ` AdaMagica
2018-07-15 15:33   ` Jere
2018-07-16  3:22     ` AdaMagica
2018-07-17  0:35       ` Jere
2018-07-17  9:46         ` AdaMagica
2018-07-17 10:11           ` AdaMagica
2018-07-20 12:08             ` Jere
2018-07-20 16:11               ` AdaMagica
2018-07-20 22:03                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-20 22:07                 ` Jere
2018-07-21 10:33                   ` AdaMagica
2018-07-24  3:32                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-24 17:15                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-25  5:37                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-25 18:26                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-25 19:58                           ` AdaMagica
2018-07-25 20:57                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-26  0:12                               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-26  2:41                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-26 19:09                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-26 20:31                                 ` Shark8
2018-07-26 21:25                                   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-27 22:05                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-28  0:35                                       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-27 21:58                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-20 22:23                 ` Jere
2018-07-20 22:25                   ` Jere
2018-07-21  5:58                   ` J-P. Rosen
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