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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Type naming conventions: Any_Foo
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 12:21:38 +0100
Date: 2019-12-07T12:21:38+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qsg203$1soi$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qsfu02$j84$1@dont-email.me

On 2019-12-07 11:13, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> On 12/6/19 9:35 PM, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>
>> No, it would be misleading. Element must be reserved for instances of 
>> the type. They are actual elements. The type of an element is not an 
>> element, these are two totally different things.
> 
> As these are generic data structures, there are no instances of the 
> type.

Each type has instances = objects of.

> Parameters should be called Item (the library commonly uses 
> New_Item).

That is a poor choice of names. What is the difference or connection 
between Element and Item. How the type of Item is Element? Why not 
otherwise? To me the pair Element_Type-Element is cleaner than Element-Item.

[ Element and item are just same thing. Element is a member of a set. 
Item is a member of a set too, though the set is usually ordered. ]

>> I am required to. There must be always be two types in a GUI, one 
>> referential type and one implementation type. 
> 
> As I have presented here in the past a proof of concept of a GUI library 
> that uses no access types, this is demonstrably false.

Yes, I remember you did, but I also remember that it was not really usable.

The fact is that widgets have referential semantics because they are not 
computational objects, they live in the outer world like all I/O 
objects, e.g. File_Type (Note "_Type" (:-)). You cannot get around that.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-07 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-04 13:56 Type naming conventions: Any_Foo Alejandro R. Mosteo
2019-12-04 14:52 ` Lucretia
2019-12-04 16:42   ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2019-12-05 10:51     ` AdaMagica
2019-12-05 17:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-05 17:45         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-12-05 20:03           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-05 21:51             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-12-05 23:12               ` Randy Brukardt
2019-12-06 20:20                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-07  1:19                   ` Randy Brukardt
2019-12-06 20:18               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-06 20:35                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-12-07  0:57                   ` Randy Brukardt
2019-12-07 10:28                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-07 12:36                       ` Niklas Holsti
2019-12-08 12:04                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-07 10:13                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-07 11:21                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2019-12-08 11:55                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-08 12:38                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-12-08 14:31                         ` Shark8
2019-12-08 21:58                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-09 22:47                             ` Shark8
2019-12-07 23:24                     ` Jere
2019-12-08 12:14                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-09 22:07                         ` Randy Brukardt
2019-12-05 19:49         ` Niklas Holsti
2019-12-05 20:47           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-05 21:33             ` Niklas Holsti
2019-12-06 11:44               ` Lucretia
2019-12-06 20:23                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-06 20:11               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-06 20:46                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-12-06 21:55                 ` Niklas Holsti
2019-12-07 10:19                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-07 12:05                     ` Niklas Holsti
2019-12-08 11:59                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-12-06  8:57       ` AdaMagica
2019-12-06  9:55         ` J-P. Rosen
2019-12-06 15:30       ` Optikos
2019-12-07  3:34 ` Shark8
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