From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.jFK6OqqKW5bkmQ4H/i1UAQ.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "Luke A. Guest" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada on Apple's new procesors Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 00:25:52 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <4d9fa282-830d-42f7-a3bf-ba127cb2ad06o@googlegroups.com> <8332f305-299f-45d7-9f9d-2cad924b24d8o@googlegroups.com> <9d941aca-2eb6-4f35-a346-c290c4666bdfo@googlegroups.com> <76def2a5-667c-4009-b3b9-f0cf1c13a51bo@googlegroups.com> <3b5b2360-684c-4149-8662-98b53319cf94o@googlegroups.com> <471e2c4a-192f-443d-8247-c06d56ab2092o@googlegroups.com> <9ea97f89-8912-4c59-a1c2-2aa71107902do@googlegroups.com> <837dc8af-5747-4d56-a330-e4b4c95c66f6o@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jFK6OqqKW5bkmQ4H/i1UAQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 Content-Language: en-GB X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59277 List-Id: On 30/06/2020 23:07, Wesley Pan wrote: > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-7, Luke A. Guest wrote: >> >> I'm developing SDLAda, there are mobile targets. I don't see why Ada >> shouldn't. Jesus, even COBOL can compile to mobile according to an >> article I read a while ago. If AdaCore and Ada users want people not >> thinking that Ada is an ancient language, then it needs to wake up, >> smell the coffee and get on mobile. > > I COMPLETELY agree with Luke! We need Ada to expand to things like mobile, gaming, and other "more exciting" markets to help Thanks :) > attract the new generations of software engineers and to stay relevant in the public's eyes. The gaming industry alone rivals that of Hollywood. By end of 2019, GTA 5 sold more than 100 million copies worldwide, earning its publisher more than $6 billion on a $265 million development budget. That's not chump change. How can members of the Ada community ever really jump into such industries if the same issues like the license keep coming up as road blocks?! I came out of the game industry 15 years ago and automatically went straight to Ada because I thought it was a good fit. > I'm not in any way suggesting the Ada community give up its focus on the safety and reliability angle. Those are very important too. But, if you were to have affordable/free Ada tools for mobile/gaming on one side, and expensive tools for the next-gen Mars rover on the other side, which do you think would attract more end users? > > BTW, even the new "cool" Rust language is being used to develop apps for mobile. Ada apps....? > Exactly.