From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.jFK6OqqKW5bkmQ4H/i1UAQ.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "Luke A. Guest" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada on Apple's new procesors Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 00:27:43 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <4d9fa282-830d-42f7-a3bf-ba127cb2ad06o@googlegroups.com> <8332f305-299f-45d7-9f9d-2cad924b24d8o@googlegroups.com> <9d941aca-2eb6-4f35-a346-c290c4666bdfo@googlegroups.com> <76def2a5-667c-4009-b3b9-f0cf1c13a51bo@googlegroups.com> <3b5b2360-684c-4149-8662-98b53319cf94o@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jFK6OqqKW5bkmQ4H/i1UAQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: en-GB Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59278 List-Id: On 30/06/2020 22:57, Simon Wright wrote: > No. No. > The RTS released with GNAT CE has had the runtime exception removed, so I don't care about GNAT CE, I don't use it, never have because it has the LE removed. > it's pure GPL. The RTS released to customers is 99.99% the same, but it > hasn't had the runtime exception removed. Likewise the FSF GCC RTS. So Nope. The FSF GCC has the LE in the COPYING.RUNTIME file. > *as far as the licensing is concerned* an FSF user is in the same > position as a supported user; but supported users get support! > > The only reason that the GPL and the runtime exception are involved at > all is because the RTS is released under those terms. If I write my own > (clean-room) runtime under say the MIT license then the fact that a > developer uses the GCC compiler (or GNAT-LLVM) has no effect on how they > propagate the product; and since the GPL and the runtime exception aren't > involved in the first place, using LLVM IR can't make any difference. > Again, you're missing the whole point of this thread, it's the IR not the runtime, that's the issue.