From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.2uCIJahv+a4XEBqttj5Vkw.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Proposal: Auto-allocation of Indefinite Objects Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 18:20:24 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <94a54092-a56f-4a99-aaec-08dd611c8fd8@googlegroups.com> <8a502b6c-4609-4cd8-b292-5797fe6421e1n@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 2uCIJahv+a4XEBqttj5Vkw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59590 List-Id: On 29/07/2020 17:33, Brian Drummond wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:59:09 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>> A constant String := "done"; >>> Q : indefinite String; >>> ... >>> loop >>> Q := Get_Line; >>> exit when Q = A; >>> end loop; >> >> I am not comfortable with the semantics of this and with possible >> implications too. I would keep it simple. > > Interesting. Can you pin down some of that discomfort? It looks simple to > me : > > "indefinite" indicates the size can vary (and the compiler knows whether > it used the heap or stack), and in the absence of "aliased" we know there > are no copies of the pointer (if heap). I don't like compiler relocating objects. If the pool is a stack (or heap organized as a stack) it might be unable to do this. In general, there are two close but not equivalent objectives one is handling indefinite components of records another is a transparent holder object integrated into the language (without generic mess). Your use case is about the latter. My is rather the former. I doubt it is possible to unite both objectives in a single AI. >> That would be inconsistent. IMO, it should be a deep copy, provided such >> a component would not make the type limited, of which I am not sure. > > Honest question : Inconsistent with what? > I suggested shallow copy just for simplicity, and for no (ahh) deeper > reason. But again, I'm probably missing something. If you make a shallow copy of type Node_Type is record Item : new Element_Type; Prev : Node_Ptr_Type; Next : Node_Ptr_Type; end record; you create a dangling pointer should the original node disappear. A deep copy would create a new target for new Item. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de