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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Auto-allocation of Indefinite Objects
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:10:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rhkf1k$7p1$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: rgr267$1o1n$1@gioia.aioe.org

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
news:rgr267$1o1n$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> No, from the abstraction point of view they do not. They indeed abstract 
> the memory allocation aspect, but they do that at the cost of *everything* 
> else. Unbounded_String is no string anymore. Container is neither array 
> nor record type. Unbounded_String must be converted forth and back. For 
> containers I must use ugly hacks like iterators to make them resemble 
> arrays and records introducing whole levels of complexity to fight through 
> every time the compiler or I miss something.
>
> In most cases I prefer to keep a clear array or record interface at the 
> expense of manual memory management.
>
>> There's no free lunch.
>
> I think with a better type system there could be a whole banquet. (:-))

Maybe. but IMHO a better type system would get rid of arrays and strings 
altogether and only have containers/records of various sorts. The complexity 
of having both solving the same problems (not very well in the case of 
arrays/strings) doesn't buy much. I suspect that a user-defined "." as 
you've proposed elsewhere would eliminate most of the rest of the problems 
(and unify everything even further).

                                  Randy.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-20  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-03 22:48 Proposal: Auto-allocation of Indefinite Objects Stephen Davies
2020-04-03 23:45 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-04 10:54   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-04-04 20:55     ` Stephen Davies
2020-04-04  8:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-27  7:47 ` Yannick Moy
2020-07-27  9:21   ` J-P. Rosen
2020-07-27  9:49     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-27 17:48   ` Brian Drummond
2020-07-27 20:02     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-28 14:28       ` Brian Drummond
2020-07-28 14:59         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-29 15:33           ` Brian Drummond
2020-07-29 16:20             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-30 13:37               ` Stephen Davies
2020-07-30 14:23                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-30 17:04               ` Brian Drummond
2020-07-30 18:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-10  0:39                   ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-10  8:57                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-20  0:10                       ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2020-08-20 17:49                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-20 20:19                           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-08-20 23:33                             ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-21  6:45                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-23  4:52                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-23 12:28                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-20 23:30                           ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-21  6:46                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-23  4:48                               ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-23 12:29                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-10  0:31               ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-10  8:58                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-20  0:13                   ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-20 17:49                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-20 23:25                       ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-21  7:08                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-23  5:03                           ` Randy Brukardt
2020-08-23 12:28                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-07-27 20:31     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-07-31  9:25 ` Stephen Davies
2020-07-31 10:20   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-01 11:22     ` Stephen Davies
2020-08-01 12:58       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-08-01 20:35         ` Stephen Davies
2020-08-01 20:56           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-09-03  4:30 ` linda white
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