From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.2uCIJahv+a4XEBqttj5Vkw.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Learning Ada Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 08:43:34 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <1dab8412-0ff6-4081-b973-783167a37e6cn@googlegroups.com> <620a8fb2-758c-4bca-b4d3-f2e49fce3703n@googlegroups.com> <871rj2cy61.fsf@nightsong.com> <211a3c48-447a-4d23-840d-d868da44f740n@googlegroups.com> <87tuvyourl.fsf@samuel> <94513dc0-47da-4603-9ff8-87aa3e24b577n@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 2uCIJahv+a4XEBqttj5Vkw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.aioe.org Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:60396 List-Id: On 02/10/2020 20:43, gautier...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 1:09:57 PM UTC+2, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> I mostly agree with your analysis, except the last part. The problem is >> that the culture of programming and overall education became so low that >> it is no more a race against C++. C++ itself is in defense and losing >> against languages and practices so overwhelmingly bad that even C looks >> as a shining beacon. Winter is coming. > > 20-30 years ago the pointy haired bosses would warmly recommend a buzzword called C++ (or something spelled "tchavasiblosblos" in some places) for Aïti projects, but now they all want a digital transformation strategy with blockchain and machine learning. I'm not sure if the level is really lower (we tend to make the past nicer in our minds). But clearly the notion of programming language was lost on the way :-) ... Well, the method of ML used in these days goes back to an idea from 50's. It was promptly discarded then as too weak to solve elementary classification problems. The AI of late 80's was far more diversified, advanced and powerful than this mockery, yet it died peacefully, because of limitations it had. I don't even know what to think about all this. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de