From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 11:25:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Message-ID: References: <3B687EDF.9359F3FC@mediaone.net> Organization: LJK Software Date: 2 Aug 2001 14:24:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.44.122.34 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 996776690 216.44.122.34 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 18:24:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 18:24:50 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11118 comp.lang.c:71703 comp.lang.c++:79425 comp.lang.functional:7213 Date: 2001-08-02T14:24:48-05:00 List-Id: In article , hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) writes: > In article , > Preben Randhol wrote: > >> Perhaps read it again. > > Why? > > The report clearly shows that you can have problematic software in > any language. It was also ironic that it was a compiler generated > range check on a value (that was not going to be used) that was the > event that started the destructive chain of events. The management > decision that any exception had to be due to hardware error (and > warranted a shutdown) was _perhaps_ influenced by the belief that > writing code in Ada resulted in bug free programs. :-) Waking up to the fact that "Hey, I'm on the wrong rocket" certainly seems a good reason to shut down. Is there any proof that the rest of the program would have behaved correctly in the wrong rocket ?