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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: array from static predicate on enumerated type
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:08:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s2s9ti$qma$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a173284c-ed52-4de5-8df7-6a83ede65435n@googlegroups.com

On 2021-03-17 05:05, Matt Borchers wrote:

> It feels like an unfinished addition or incomplete feature to actively prevent 'First, 'Last, etc. from returning something reasonable about the sub-type in question.  Return SOMETHING, even if it pertains to the parent type, and let the programmer decide how it can be useful to them.  Using my LETTERS and CURVED_LETTERS example, I still don't see why the following would be problematic:
> 
> A <= LETTERS'First
> K <= LETTERS'Last
> 11 <= LETTERS'Length
> 1 <= LETTERS'Pos(B)
> 10 <= LETTERS'Pos(J)
> 
> B <= CURVED_LETTERS'First
> J <= CURVED_LETTERS'Last
> 5 <= CURVED_LETTERS'Length
> 0 <= CURVED_LETTERS'Pos(B)
> 4 <= CURVED_LETTERS'Pos(J)
> 
> I didn't address 'Succ and 'Pred, but these also seem reasonable.

Consider this:

    function Count (A : LETTERS) return Natural is
       Count : Natural := 0;
    begin
       for I in A'First..A'Last loop
          Count := Count + 1;
       end loop;
    end Count;

How this supposed to be compiled? Note that CURVED_LETTERS is a subtype 
of LETTERS. So you can pass CURVED_LETTERS to Count.

Count cannot use LETTERS'First, 'Succ etc in its body, they might be 
overridden they are like in CURVED_LETTERS.

In short it must either dispatch on the actual argument or else the 
argument must be converted to LETTERS in a way that LETTERS operations 
would yield the correct result.

Neither is possible.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-17  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-12 20:49 array from static predicate on enumerated type Matt Borchers
2021-03-12 21:22 ` Egil H H
2021-03-12 22:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-03-12 22:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-13  2:06   ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-13  4:55     ` Randy Brukardt
2021-03-15 14:16       ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-15 17:53         ` Shark8
2021-03-16  6:58         ` Randy Brukardt
2021-03-13  8:04     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-15 14:11       ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-15 17:48         ` Shark8
2021-03-15 20:25           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-16 13:27             ` Shark8
2021-03-16 14:25               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-17  4:05                 ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-17  7:08                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2021-03-17 18:44                     ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-17 19:41                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-18  1:30                         ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-18  8:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-19  0:10                             ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-19  8:00                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-18 10:15                           ` Niklas Holsti
2021-03-18 10:47                             ` AdaMagica
2021-03-18 11:26                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-03-19  0:34                             ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-19  0:49                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-03-23  1:07                                 ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-23  3:43                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2021-03-22 19:09                               ` Niklas Holsti
2021-03-17 15:08                   ` Shark8
2021-03-17 19:08                     ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-17 20:41                       ` Shark8
2021-03-18  1:04                         ` Matt Borchers
2021-03-18 14:25                           ` Shark8
2021-03-18 23:36                             ` Matt Borchers
2022-03-16  0:38             ` Thomas
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