From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org>
Subject: Re: Unchecked_Deallocation with tagged types
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:35:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5oo53$4kt$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ie8uagFqaf2U1@mid.individual.net>
On 4/20/21 11:10 PM, Niklas Holsti wrote:
> On 2021-04-20 23:32, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
>> On 4/20/21 8:53 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>>
>>> 'Free makes more sense in a new language (an Ada follow-on).
>>
>> Right. I don't think it would be a good idea to add it to Ada.
>>
>> But I think a new language should not have pointers at all.
>>
>> No more radical than not having arrays.
>
>
> It seems to me that a language without arrays and pointers would be very
> difficult to use in an embedded, real-time, close-to-HW context. So we would
> lose the nice wide-spectrum nature of Ada.
I don't see that pointers are needed for such S/W.
Brukardt has recently been discussing the idea that a high-level language such
as Ada should not have arrays, which is why I referenced it. Such a language
might not be convenient for such systems.
But the idea is that arrays are a low-level implementation feature that are
usually used to implement higher-level abstractions, such as sequences and maps.
A language without arrays would have direct support for such abstractions. My
experience is that most uses of arrays in embedded, real-time S/W are also for
such abstractions, so it would probably not be too great a problem.
--
Jeff Carter
"Monsieur Arthur King, who has the brain of a duck, you know."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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2021-04-17 21:45 Unchecked_Deallocation with tagged types DrPi
2021-04-17 22:29 ` Rod Kay
2021-04-17 22:36 ` Rod Kay
2021-04-18 9:06 ` DrPi
2021-04-18 9:07 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-18 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-18 8:46 ` Gautier write-only address
2021-04-18 9:09 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-18 10:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-04-16 3:44 ` Thomas
2022-04-16 8:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-18 10:20 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-04-18 10:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-18 15:14 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-04-18 15:23 ` Gautier write-only address
2021-04-18 15:53 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-04-18 16:08 ` Gautier write-only address
2022-04-16 5:00 ` Thomas
2021-04-20 18:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-04-20 19:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-04-18 5:51 ` Thomas
2022-04-18 6:26 ` Niklas Holsti
2021-04-20 20:32 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-20 21:10 ` Niklas Holsti
2021-04-21 8:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter [this message]
2021-04-21 10:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-24 0:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-18 1:51 ` Thomas
2021-04-18 16:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-18 9:13 ` DrPi
2021-04-18 10:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-04-18 10:42 ` DrPi
2021-04-18 16:48 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-20 15:57 ` Stephen Leake
2021-04-20 17:24 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-20 17:34 ` Vincent Marciante
2021-04-20 20:56 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-21 10:21 ` Vincent Marciante
2021-04-21 10:28 ` Vincent Marciante
2021-04-21 12:13 ` Simon Wright
2021-04-21 13:28 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-04-22 10:21 ` Vincent Marciante
2021-04-21 13:42 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-24 1:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-12 23:25 ` use clauses Thomas
2022-04-13 1:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-04-14 2:51 ` 25.BX944
2022-04-14 6:49 ` Emmanuel Briot
2022-04-15 5:33 ` Doctor Who
2022-04-19 3:53 ` Thomas
2022-04-19 5:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-04-22 8:55 ` Unchecked_Deallocation with tagged types Stephen Leake
2021-04-22 11:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-04-22 15:49 ` Vincent Marciante
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