From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,243dc2fb696a49cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit From: Brian May Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Popularity: Comparison of Ada/Charles with C++ STL (and Perl) References: <11b4d.3849$d5.30042@newsb.telia.net> <415813FE.9090803@unixfu.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:51:48 +1000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qKph8uHCyv3K+PAMh5ImWFmB9+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-202-173-153-89.vic.westnet.com.au X-Trace: news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com 1096329098 202.173.153.89 (28 Sep 2004 09:51:38 +1000) X-Complaints-To: abuse@pipenetworks.com X-Abuse-Info: Please forward all headers to enable your complaint to be properly processed. Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.alphalink.com.au!news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4295 Date: 2004-09-28T09:51:48+10:00 List-Id: >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Cline writes: Kevin> Bad programmers didn't come from open source. There have Kevin> always been bad programmers, and there always will be. Kevin> Just as it is with music and writing and film and art, 90% Kevin> of all programming sucks. I know of commercial programs that are developed (designed, implemented, and tested) very badly just as I know of open source projects that appear to be handled very well. Commercial projects can be put under pressure to cut corners, e.g. because management sees a formal software development process as an academic exercise that is a complete waste of time "in the real world"(TM), despite protests from programmers. The same management see software development as a tedious and unreliable process, and don't make the connection that the lack of a proper development process could be leading to the difficulties. They often give solutions (that may be inadequate) rather then requirements, turning the task of programming into a guessing game. Open source developers aren't under these pressures, and have more scope for doing the right thing. (this isn't to imply that all open source projects are developed correctly; some are bad too; this doesn't imply all commercial projects are developed badly either). -- Brian May