From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!5WHqCw2XxjHb2npjM9GYbw.user.gioia.aioe.org.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada and software testing Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:40:24 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <871r84cq4r.fsf@nightsong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 5WHqCw2XxjHb2npjM9GYbw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62373 List-Id: On 2021-07-12 02:49, Paul Rubin wrote: > Well, that went on for longer than I expected. My questions are > basically: > > Q1. Are there good recommendations for Ada testing strategies? Do > the tests resemble the stuff in the Sqlite doc? > > Q2. Is fuzz testing an important part of Ada testing, and does it > tend to find many bugs? I do not think so. Here is a war story of a bug I fixed recently. A network protocol implementation used a callback to send the next portion of data, when the transport becomes available. The callback implementation peeks a portion of data from the outgoing queue and *asynchronously* sends it away. *If* initiation of sending is successful, the queue is popped. OK? No, it is a bug that almost never shows itself because initiation of I/O would normally deprive the task of the processor. But if it does not and I/O completes without losing the processor, the callback is called recursively *before* popping the queue and the *same* portion of data is sent again. Now, nether 100% coverage, nor fuzz, not even 100% black box testing can detect this, arguably trivial bug. [The fix is to make recursive calls void] -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de