From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!Lx7EM+81f32E0bqku+QpCA.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Luke A. Guest" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Janus Ada 1.5 Ada cp/m manuals Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:16:22 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="44904"; posting-host="Lx7EM+81f32E0bqku+QpCA.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: en-GB Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62506 List-Id: On 17/08/2021 08:23, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Luke A. Guest" wrote in message > news:sf9i9b$1rft$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> >> Does anyone have electronic copies? They're not in the zips available. > > Unfortunately, they don't exist. The original source was for a > photo-typesetter that hasn't existed for decades (and mostly likely is only > stored on 8" floppies that probably aren't readable even if the right > hardware was available). There are a few retro youtube channels who could handle getting any old hardware working if you have it and are willing to donate or lend it to them, retro recipes, rmc, 8-bit guy, etc. > The only way for them to exist is for someone to scan a printed version. > > I have a single printed version in our archives (with installation > instructions for 8" floppies dated March 5, 1984). Its got someone's > hardwritten notes in it (it's not pristine). Anyway, since it is the only > known version, I won't let it out of the office, since it is literally > irreplaceable. > > I've offered to others to scan it to PDFs (one per page, that's all I can > figure out how to do on our cheap multifunction machine here) if someone Maybe you should let someone come in with their own laptop and scanner to do it. > BTW, since RRS still exists and never made a public version for any version > of Janus/Ada (including the CP/M versions) -- because all of the versions > are derived from the same original source and it is likely that some of the > compiler still survives from those versions) -- using it without a license > is technically infringing. I don't think there is much chance that anyone > would try to stop non-commercial use, but I would suggest getting legal if > anything commercial is involved. (And yes, we periodically get requests for > help with it from users that I would have expected to have moved on long > ago.) Seriously? Even Caldera released CP/M tot he public and Amstrad released the source to the Spectrum ROM's.