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From: "Stéphane Rivière" <stef@genesix.org>
Subject: Re: How to challenge a GCC patch?
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 18:26:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <sj242s$ptk$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8844cde-babd-42ad-ba03-d4b30883f66en@googlegroups.com>

> We have removed ASIS support first in our own trunk of GNAT, and then 6 months later we have removed it from the GCC FSF trunk, so talking about lack of fairness is, well, unfair.

I deeply endorse your maintenance and code evolution concerns.

The lack of 'fairness' (my apologies if you find that word a bit strong)
is that GNAT pro users are suddenly the only ones who can use ASIS,
while a unique tool like Adacontrol (for code control quality) has
always been available equally to the Free and Pro communities...

> Why? Because ASIS is no longer maintained as an internal standard and hasn't evolved beyond Ada 95 because there was not enough support in the community and among 

Thanks Arno for these explanations...

We all know about Adacore's commitment to the Free Software community.
The latest versions of GNATStudio, which has never been so reliable and
user-friendly, are just one example among others.

However, the initial problem persists and cannot be solved quickly.

Should Adacontrol users find a relationship using GNAT-Pro to release
the tools needed to continue using Adacontrol?

Maybe Adacore could reconsider its decision to keep ASIS for the Pro
community only and release it again, at least temporarily, to give the
Libre community some time to find a sustainable solution?

This could be an intermediate solution, pending a possible port of
Adacontrol to libadalang (or any other satisfying way).

Perhaps Adacore could help the community and Jean-Pierre in this
process? (targeted help, improved documentation, etc.)?

Thanks again for participating in this thread. It is very interesting to
talk with a representative of the most essential Ada contributor to
Libre software.

Stéphane

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-29 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27 10:06 How to challenge a GCC patch? J-P. Rosen
2021-09-27 11:23 ` Stéphane Rivière
2021-09-27 14:18   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-28  7:38   ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-09-29 16:26     ` Stéphane Rivière [this message]
2021-09-29 19:04       ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-29 23:29         ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  6:23           ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:53             ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  8:13               ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:26                 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 10:54                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30 12:27                     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 15:25                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01  0:37                       ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  0:33                     ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  0:30                 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  9:41                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-02  9:14                     ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-04 12:30                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-14  1:48                         ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-14  6:09                           ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:53             ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  8:16               ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:28                 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 10:56                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30 12:27                     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 15:28                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  6:19         ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01  0:18           ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  9:24             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-02  9:34               ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-04 12:26                 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-14  1:40                   ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-14  6:04                     ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  5:57     ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:29       ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-09-30  7:52         ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:21           ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-10-01  9:56             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01 12:29             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:28           ` Fabien Chouteau
2021-09-27 12:48 ` Simon Wright
2021-09-27 14:20   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-28  6:55     ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-30  6:44       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-29  8:58     ` nobody in particular
2021-09-29  9:34       ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-29 10:03       ` Simon Wright
2021-09-29 11:03         ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-29 11:07           ` Simon Wright
2021-09-29 18:58     ` Andreas ZEURCHER
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