From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,NICE_REPLY_A, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?U3TDqXBoYW5lIFJpdmnDqHJl?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 18:26:04 +0200 Organization: La Maison Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stef@genesix.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:26:04 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="029a6aa90accdd01d5c9f266ae9f1995"; logging-data="26548"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/EUti2/acOHo9ZmtpBAIenQjiGE5SX3pg=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:HTnbdHLj9zzm/VhoPeEdTJRoY70= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: fr Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62868 List-Id: > We have removed ASIS support first in our own trunk of GNAT, and then 6 months later we have removed it from the GCC FSF trunk, so talking about lack of fairness is, well, unfair. I deeply endorse your maintenance and code evolution concerns. The lack of 'fairness' (my apologies if you find that word a bit strong) is that GNAT pro users are suddenly the only ones who can use ASIS, while a unique tool like Adacontrol (for code control quality) has always been available equally to the Free and Pro communities... > Why? Because ASIS is no longer maintained as an internal standard and hasn't evolved beyond Ada 95 because there was not enough support in the community and among Thanks Arno for these explanations... We all know about Adacore's commitment to the Free Software community. The latest versions of GNATStudio, which has never been so reliable and user-friendly, are just one example among others. However, the initial problem persists and cannot be solved quickly. Should Adacontrol users find a relationship using GNAT-Pro to release the tools needed to continue using Adacontrol? Maybe Adacore could reconsider its decision to keep ASIS for the Pro community only and release it again, at least temporarily, to give the Libre community some time to find a sustainable solution? This could be an intermediate solution, pending a possible port of Adacontrol to libadalang (or any other satisfying way). Perhaps Adacore could help the community and Jean-Pierre in this process? (targeted help, improved documentation, etc.)? Thanks again for participating in this thread. It is very interesting to talk with a representative of the most essential Ada contributor to Libre software. Stéphane