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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: How to challenge a GCC patch?
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 04:14:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <sj97uj$t25$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: sj6l3g$f9g$1@dont-email.me

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"J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> wrote in message 
news:sj6l3g$f9g$1@dont-email.me...
> Le 01/10/2021 à 02:30, Randy Brukardt a écrit :
>> Umm, someone is confusing the original ASIS drafts with the ISO Standard
>> (which has an ISO copyright with no exceptions). I would definitely not
>> reference the ISO Standard in anything you are freely giving away --  
>> there
>> are copyright trolls out there that could easily decide to get your 
>> material
>> banned from the Internet.
>>
> Strangely enough, my copy of ISO 15291 has no copyright statement at all; 
> might be a "last draft" version.
>
> However, the headers of every ASIS-for-Gnat package state:
> "This specification is adapted from the Ada Semantic
> Interface Specification Standard (ISO/IEC 15291) for use with GNAT. In
> accordance with the copyright of that document, you can freely copy and
> modify this specification, provided that if you redistribute a modified
> version, any changes that you have made are clearly indicated."
>
> (and since that statement dates back to Robert Dewar's times, I'm pretty 
> certain it is reliable).

I'm certain that is something that predates the ISO version of ASIS. There's 
no such permission in the ISO document that I was sent as editor during our 
last (aborted) revision attempt. Robert probably was using the pre-ISO 
version as the source, all

> My memory is that all "interesting" part of the standard was deliberatly 
> put as comments in the specification, precisely to circumvent the ISO 
> copyright, and allow the use of ASIS without paying an outrageous price to 
> ISO.

I don't see how using comments helps anything. The Oracle case makes it 
pretty clear an API iteself can be covered by a copyright, and surely the 
comments are covered by the copyright. And the ISO version has no copyright 
statement other than the usual "All rights reserved".

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and cannot say anything for certain in these 
matters.

                            Randy.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-02  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27 10:06 How to challenge a GCC patch? J-P. Rosen
2021-09-27 11:23 ` Stéphane Rivière
2021-09-27 14:18   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-28  7:38   ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-09-29 16:26     ` Stéphane Rivière
2021-09-29 19:04       ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-29 23:29         ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  6:23           ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:53             ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  8:13               ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:26                 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 10:54                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30 12:27                     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 15:25                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01  0:37                       ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  0:33                     ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  0:30                 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  9:41                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-02  9:14                     ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2021-10-04 12:30                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-14  1:48                         ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-14  6:09                           ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:53             ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30  8:16               ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:28                 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 10:56                   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30 12:27                     ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-30 15:28                       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  6:19         ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01  0:18           ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-01  9:24             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-02  9:34               ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-04 12:26                 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-14  1:40                   ` Randy Brukardt
2021-10-14  6:04                     ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  5:57     ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  7:29       ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-09-30  7:52         ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:21           ` Arnaud Charlet
2021-10-01  9:56             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-10-01 12:29             ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-30  8:28           ` Fabien Chouteau
2021-09-27 12:48 ` Simon Wright
2021-09-27 14:20   ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-28  6:55     ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-30  6:44       ` J-P. Rosen
2021-09-29  8:58     ` nobody in particular
2021-09-29  9:34       ` Emmanuel Briot
2021-09-29 10:03       ` Simon Wright
2021-09-29 11:03         ` Luke A. Guest
2021-09-29 11:07           ` Simon Wright
2021-09-29 18:58     ` Andreas ZEURCHER
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