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Le 02/10/2021 à 11:14, Randy Brukardt a écrit :
>> My memory is that all "interesting" part of the standard was deliberatly
>> put as comments in the specification, precisely to circumvent the ISO
>> copyright, and allow the use of ASIS without paying an outrageous price to
>> ISO.
> I don't see how using comments helps anything. The Oracle case makes it
> pretty clear an API iteself can be covered by a copyright, and surely the
> comments are covered by the copyright. And the ISO version has no copyright
> statement other than the usual "All rights reserved".

1) It seems to me that you are confusing the copyright owner with the 
right to use the interface. Undoubtedly, ISO is the copyright owner. But 
they may authorize unlimited use of the specification, otherwise NO 
standard would make sense. Do you infringe copyright if you build an 
electrical plug that conforms to you electrical standard?

2) Comments help, because they describe precisely what is expected by 
every function, and what it provides. Actually, I never open the ASIS 
standard, everything I need is detailed in the comments.

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