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* Happy Birthday, Ada!
@ 2021-12-10  9:37 Jeffrey R.Carter
  2021-12-10 11:30 ` Luke A. Guest
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From: Jeffrey R.Carter @ 2021-12-10  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


Born this day in 1815 and 1980. New version on this date in 2012.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"We'll make Rock Ridge think it's a chicken
that got caught in a tractor's nuts!"
Blazing Saddles
87

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2021-12-10  9:37 Happy Birthday, Ada! Jeffrey R.Carter
@ 2021-12-10 11:30 ` Luke A. Guest
  2021-12-10 12:36   ` Jeffrey R.Carter
  2021-12-11  5:28   ` Randy Brukardt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Luke A. Guest @ 2021-12-10 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 10/12/2021 09:37, Jeffrey R.Carter wrote:
> Born this day in 1815 and 1980. New version on this date in 2012.
> 

Are new revisions always released on this date?

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2021-12-10 11:30 ` Luke A. Guest
@ 2021-12-10 12:36   ` Jeffrey R.Carter
  2021-12-10 14:23     ` AdaMagica
  2021-12-11  5:28   ` Randy Brukardt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R.Carter @ 2021-12-10 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 2021-12-10 12:30, Luke A. Guest wrote:
> On 10/12/2021 09:37, Jeffrey R.Carter wrote:
>> Born this day in 1815 and 1980. New version on this date in 2012.
>>
> 
> Are new revisions always released on this date?

No. 83, 95, and ISO/IEC 8652:2007 were not published on Dec 10. Probably 2X 
won't be, either.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"We'll make Rock Ridge think it's a chicken
that got caught in a tractor's nuts!"
Blazing Saddles
87

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2021-12-10 12:36   ` Jeffrey R.Carter
@ 2021-12-10 14:23     ` AdaMagica
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From: AdaMagica @ 2021-12-10 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)


A list of dates Ada 93 .. Ada 2012 can be found here:
https://www.ada-deutschland.de/sites/default/files/AdaTourCD/AdaTourCD2004/Ada%20Magica/Contents.html

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2021-12-10 11:30 ` Luke A. Guest
  2021-12-10 12:36   ` Jeffrey R.Carter
@ 2021-12-11  5:28   ` Randy Brukardt
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2021-12-11  5:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> wrote in message 
news:sovdrc$1cob$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 10/12/2021 09:37, Jeffrey R.Carter wrote:
>> Born this day in 1815 and 1980. New version on this date in 2012.
>>
>
> Are new revisions always released on this date?

No. It was mostly a coincidence. We were told that the Ada 2012 Standard 
would be published in the December 15th batch of Standards. Joyce Tokar made 
a request to date it December 10th in honor of Ada's birthday; she got a 
response that ISO couldn't do that. When it actually was published (around 
December 15th), we found they had dated it December 10th as requested. Not 
sure when/where/how they changed their mind.

If it had been scheduled for, say, February 15th, such a request wouldn't 
make any sense. We wouldn't want to delay the Standard for months just so it 
can have a cool date.

                                 Randy. 


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2017-12-10 21:05 ` AdaMagica
@ 2017-12-10 21:37   ` Simon Wright
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From: Simon Wright @ 2017-12-10 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


AdaMagica <christ-usch.grein@t-online.de> writes:

> Primeval times when Babbage dwelt:

Like !


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2017-12-10  9:51 Jeffrey R. Carter
  2017-12-10 12:16 ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
@ 2017-12-10 21:05 ` AdaMagica
  2017-12-10 21:37   ` Simon Wright
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: AdaMagica @ 2017-12-10 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


Primeval times when Babbage dwelt:
not were bit nor byte
nor operating system,
not hardware below
nor above software,
abyss abundant,
but computer nowhere.

And lo, there was Ada,
and Ada separated the numbers
and split them,
in Zero and One did she split them.

And there was Zuse,
and Zuse created the beast Z1,
which fed on the numbers
created by Ada,
and there was absolute joy among mankind.

And mankind created languages
that they be able to command the creatures
which fed on the numbers,
and the numbers were commands
and the commands were numbers.

And there rose two giants,
Fortran and Algol.
And the giants were fruitful and multiplied,
and sprang from them of languages countless many:
APL and PL/1,
Simula and Jovial,
Lisp and Cobol.
And Wirth created Pascal and Modula.
And there were Oberon and Occam and Eiffel,
C and C++,

Prolog and Smalltalk.
And there was a great confusion among mankind,
and one man did not understand the other man's words,
and some did not understand their own words.

And DoD spake:
"Let us restore concord among mankind
and create ONE language,
that all men speak the same language,
in the large as in the small."

And there arose Strawman,
and Strawman begat Woodenman,
and Woodenman begat Tinman,
and Tinman begat Ironman.
Ironman however begat Steelman.

And lo, from him emerged of colours four:
Red, Green, Yellow and Blue.

And the colours were weighed and found wanting
except one.

And ANSI spake to Green:
"Ada shalt be thy name henceforth
and servest all mankind
in the large as in the small."

And DoD spake:
"Thou shalt not have another language beside Ada."
And Ada shone in beauty,
and it was the day of the Lord
the 10th of December 1980.

 	© Copyright 2000 C.K.W. Grein

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2017-12-10  9:51 Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2017-12-10 12:16 ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
  2017-12-10 21:05 ` AdaMagica
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Mr. Man-wai Chang @ 2017-12-10 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 10/12/2017 5:51 PM, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> On this date in
>
> 1815: A. Ada Byron (later Mrs. King, Countess of Lovelace)
> 1980: MIL-STD-1815 (Ada 80)
>

Who died of sexually transmitted diseases? :)

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* Happy Birthday, Ada!
@ 2017-12-10  9:51 Jeffrey R. Carter
  2017-12-10 12:16 ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
  2017-12-10 21:05 ` AdaMagica
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From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2017-12-10  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)


On this date in

1815: A. Ada Byron (later Mrs. King, Countess of Lovelace)
1980: MIL-STD-1815 (Ada 80)

-- 
Jeff Carter
"There's no messiah here. There's a mess all right, but no messiah."
Monty Python's Life of Brian
84


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* Happy Birthday, Ada!
@ 2016-12-10 15:37 Jeffrey R. Carter
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From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2016-12-10 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


201/36 today.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Every sperm is sacred."
Monty Python's the Meaning of Life
55


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-11 18:11                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-11 21:12                     ` Randy Brukardt
@ 2015-12-12 10:19                     ` J-P. Rosen
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From: J-P. Rosen @ 2015-12-12 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


Le 11/12/2015 19:11, Jeffrey R. Carter a écrit :
> On 12/11/2015 12:51 AM, J-P. Rosen wrote:
>>> >>
>> > This has been discussed at the time. The standard was ready for
>> > submission (and available in Gnat) in December 2005, and it would not
>> > have made sense to name it in the future.
> Nonsense. I wasn't involved with Ada at the time, but ARM-83 was published on
> 1983 Feb 17, so it was most likely ready for submission in 1982, but we don't
> call it Ada 82. It made sense to name it in the future. ARM-95 was ready for
> submission in 1994, but we don't call it Ada 94. It made sense to name it in the
> future. There would have been no more inconvenience in using Ada 0X until
> publication, at which time we'd have called it Ada 07, than there was in using
> Ada 9X until publication, at which time we called it Ada 95.

In these cases, no compiler was available at the time the standard was
ready. AdaCore insisted on keeping the name Ada2005, because they wanted
to advertise that Gnat was already available for the new standard (I was
personnally not in favour of that, but it was a deliberate, voted,
decision).

-- 
J-P. Rosen
Adalog
2 rue du Docteur Lombard, 92441 Issy-les-Moulineaux CEDEX
Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00
http://www.adalog.fr

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-11 18:11                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-11 21:12                     ` Randy Brukardt
  2015-12-12 10:19                     ` J-P. Rosen
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From: Randy Brukardt @ 2015-12-11 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:n4f3fs$osm$2@dont-email.me...
> On 12/11/2015 12:51 AM, J-P. Rosen wrote:
>>>
>> This has been discussed at the time. The standard was ready for
>> submission (and available in Gnat) in December 2005, and it would not
>> have made sense to name it in the future.
>
> Nonsense. I wasn't involved with Ada at the time, but ARM-83 was published 
> on
> 1983 Feb 17, so it was most likely ready for submission in 1982, but we 
> don't
> call it Ada 82. It made sense to name it in the future. ARM-95 was ready 
> for
> submission in 1994, but we don't call it Ada 94. It made sense to name it 
> in the
> future. There would have been no more inconvenience in using Ada 0X until
> publication, at which time we'd have called it Ada 07, than there was in 
> using
> Ada 9X until publication, at which time we called it Ada 95.
>
> (I know of only one person who was inconvenienced by not knowing the name 
> of 9X
> in advance of publication, and while I owe him my understanding of 
> information
> hiding, I don't consider one person's inconvenience enough to warrant that
> ridiculous and confusing name for ISO/IEC 8652:2007.)

I agree with Jeff, but it pretty much no longer matters, 'cause people on 
the bleeding edge are using Ada 2012, and everyone else is using Ada 95. 
Outside of the ACATS and language lawyer stuff, I never mention Ada 2007, er 
Ada 2005.

                                  Randy.



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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-11  7:51                 ` J-P. Rosen
@ 2015-12-11 18:11                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-11 21:12                     ` Randy Brukardt
  2015-12-12 10:19                     ` J-P. Rosen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2015-12-11 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 12/11/2015 12:51 AM, J-P. Rosen wrote:
>>
> This has been discussed at the time. The standard was ready for
> submission (and available in Gnat) in December 2005, and it would not
> have made sense to name it in the future.

Nonsense. I wasn't involved with Ada at the time, but ARM-83 was published on
1983 Feb 17, so it was most likely ready for submission in 1982, but we don't
call it Ada 82. It made sense to name it in the future. ARM-95 was ready for
submission in 1994, but we don't call it Ada 94. It made sense to name it in the
future. There would have been no more inconvenience in using Ada 0X until
publication, at which time we'd have called it Ada 07, than there was in using
Ada 9X until publication, at which time we called it Ada 95.

(I know of only one person who was inconvenienced by not knowing the name of 9X
in advance of publication, and while I owe him my understanding of information
hiding, I don't consider one person's inconvenience enough to warrant that
ridiculous and confusing name for ISO/IEC 8652:2007.)

-- 
Jeff Carter
"I like it when the support group complains that they have
insufficient data on mean time to repair bugs in Ada software."
Robert I. Eachus
91

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 17:41 Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 17:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
@ 2015-12-11 10:47 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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From: Jacob Sparre Andersen @ 2015-12-11 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)


Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:

> Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of
> Lovelace.
>
> Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down
> on the job today.

I was out celebrating with a few other Ada Denmark members. :-)

Jacob
-- 
"I've got _plenty_ of common sense!"
"I just choose to ignore it."

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-11  0:47               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-11  7:51                 ` J-P. Rosen
  2015-12-11 18:11                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: J-P. Rosen @ 2015-12-11  7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)


Le 11/12/2015 01:47, Jeffrey R. Carter a écrit :
> On 12/10/2015 04:50 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>> "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
>> news:n4clo3$ar5$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Anyone else find
>>>
>>> 2007: Ada 2005
>>>
>>> Meaningless and confusing?
>>
>> It's accurate, though. :-) The Amendment is ISO/IEC 8652:1995/AMD 1:2007.
> 
> Accurate? There's no 2005 in there.
> 
This has been discussed at the time. The standard was ready for
submission (and available in Gnat) in December 2005, and it would not
have made sense to name it in the future.

-- 
J-P. Rosen
Adalog
2 rue du Docteur Lombard, 92441 Issy-les-Moulineaux CEDEX
Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00
http://www.adalog.fr

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 23:50             ` Randy Brukardt
@ 2015-12-11  0:47               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-11  7:51                 ` J-P. Rosen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2015-12-11  0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 12/10/2015 04:50 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
> news:n4clo3$ar5$1@dont-email.me...
>> Anyone else find
>>
>> 2007: Ada 2005
>>
>> Meaningless and confusing?
> 
> It's accurate, though. :-) The Amendment is ISO/IEC 8652:1995/AMD 1:2007.

Accurate? There's no 2005 in there.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms!"
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
18


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 20:04           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-10 23:50             ` Randy Brukardt
  2015-12-11  0:47               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2015-12-10 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:n4clo3$ar5$1@dont-email.me...
> Anyone else find
>
> 2007: Ada 2005
>
> Meaningless and confusing?

It's accurate, though. :-) The Amendment is ISO/IEC 8652:1995/AMD 1:2007.

                     Randy.



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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 18:14   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-10 23:48     ` Randy Brukardt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2015-12-10 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:n4cf9q$eah$1@dont-email.me...
...
> Today is also the 35th anniversary of the Ada programming language, 
> MIL-STD 1815
> (Ada 80), presented by Ichbiah, Barnes, and Firth at the Ada Launch.

And the third anniversary of the publication of Ada 2012 - ISO/IEC 
8652:2012.

                               Randy.



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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 19:22         ` Britt
  2015-12-10 20:04           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-10 20:53           ` David Botton
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: David Botton @ 2015-12-10 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)



> Oh my! I've used SPARK (the original version) and found it to be a very expressive language with a mature toolset that delivered what it promised.

SPARK is another language that was my point, not that SPARK is not fantastic for what it does.

David Botton

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 19:22         ` Britt
@ 2015-12-10 20:04           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 23:50             ` Randy Brukardt
  2015-12-10 20:53           ` David Botton
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2015-12-10 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Anyone else find

2007: Ada 2005

Meaningless and confusing?

-- 
Jeff Carter
"This trial is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a
sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ...
Do you realize there's not a single homosexual on that jury?"
Bananas
27


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 18:49       ` David Botton
@ 2015-12-10 19:22         ` Britt
  2015-12-10 20:04           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 20:53           ` David Botton
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Britt @ 2015-12-10 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-5, David Botton wrote:
> I object (like any one cares) to SPARK on the timeline. May as well add Oracle's PRO/SQL if doing that... Pigeon holing Ada to a niche market is a long term disaster even if a short term lifeline for AdaCore.

Oh my! I've used SPARK (the original version) and found it to be a very expressive language with a mature toolset that delivered what it promised. The SPARK 2014 update is a very relevant enhancement to the language. It belongs in the timeline.

- Britt

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 18:28     ` Anh Vo
@ 2015-12-10 18:49       ` David Botton
  2015-12-10 19:22         ` Britt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: David Botton @ 2015-12-10 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)


I object (like any one cares) to SPARK on the timeline. May as well add Oracle's PRO/SQL if doing that... Pigeon holing Ada to a niche market is a long term disaster even if a short term lifeline for AdaCore.

David Botton


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 18:15   ` Simon Wright
@ 2015-12-10 18:28     ` Anh Vo
  2015-12-10 18:49       ` David Botton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Anh Vo @ 2015-12-10 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 10:15:16 AM UTC-8, Simon Wright wrote:
> dirk@feles.cs.kuleuven.be. (Dirk Craeynest) writes:
> 
> > In article <n4cdc8$598$1@dont-email.me>,
> > Jeffrey R. Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote:
> >>Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of
> >>Lovelace.
> >>
> >>Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down
> >>on the job today.
> >
> > We're too busy celebrating!  ;-)
> 
> Or at the symposium in Oxford, which was very well attended. Many
> programmers, not many in Ada though.
> http://livestream.com/oxuni/lovelace

I was celebrating it since yesterday from http://www.celebratingada.com/ posted on AdaCore home page.

Anh Vo

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 17:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
  2015-12-10 18:14   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-10 18:15   ` Simon Wright
  2015-12-10 18:28     ` Anh Vo
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Simon Wright @ 2015-12-10 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


dirk@feles.cs.kuleuven.be. (Dirk Craeynest) writes:

> In article <n4cdc8$598$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jeffrey R. Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote:
>>Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of
>>Lovelace.
>>
>>Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down
>>on the job today.
>
> We're too busy celebrating!  ;-)

Or at the symposium in Oxford, which was very well attended. Many
programmers, not many in Ada though.
http://livestream.com/oxuni/lovelace

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 17:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
@ 2015-12-10 18:14   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 23:48     ` Randy Brukardt
  2015-12-10 18:15   ` Simon Wright
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2015-12-10 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 12/10/2015 10:50 AM, Dirk Craeynest wrote:
> In article <n4cdc8$598$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jeffrey R. Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote:
>> Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of Lovelace.
>>
>> Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down on the
>> job today.
> 
> We're too busy celebrating!  ;-)

You shouldn't celebrate so much you fall down.

Today is also the 35th anniversary of the Ada programming language, MIL-STD 1815
(Ada 80), presented by Ichbiah, Barnes, and Firth at the Ada Launch.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"This trial is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a
sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ...
Do you realize there's not a single homosexual on that jury?"
Bananas
27


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2015-12-10 17:41 Jeffrey R. Carter
@ 2015-12-10 17:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
  2015-12-10 18:14   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 18:15   ` Simon Wright
  2015-12-11 10:47 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Dirk Craeynest @ 2015-12-10 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


In article <n4cdc8$598$1@dont-email.me>,
Jeffrey R. Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote:
>Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of Lovelace.
>
>Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down on the
>job today.

We're too busy celebrating!  ;-)

Dirk
Dirk.Craeynest@cs.kuleuven.be (for Ada-Belgium/Ada-Europe/SIGAda/WG9)

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* Happy Birthday, Ada!
@ 2015-12-10 17:41 Jeffrey R. Carter
  2015-12-10 17:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
  2015-12-11 10:47 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey R. Carter @ 2015-12-10 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Today is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Ada King, Countess of Lovelace.

Usually someone further east beats me to this, but they've fallen down on the
job today.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"This trial is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a
sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ...
Do you realize there's not a single homosexual on that jury?"
Bananas
27

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-12  8:58       ` Stefan.Lucks
  2013-12-12 10:01         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
@ 2013-12-13  5:35         ` Randy Brukardt
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<Stefan.Lucks@uni-weimar.de> wrote in message 
news:alpine.DEB.2.10.1312120956520.16242@debian...
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Randy Brukardt wrote:

>> where the date is obvious. I've never looked into the actual Standard, 
>> not
>> having 238 CHF handy. :-), but I'd expect the document to have the same
>> date.
>
>Off-topic here ... but you where on the Commitee that wrote the standard,
>right? That makes you one of the authors of the standard. And ISO didn't
>bother to give you a copy for free? I am stunned!

ISO doesn't give the editors copies (or at least I don't get one, and I'm 
officially listed as editor of the Ada Standard). They did send a copy of 
the Ada 95 Corrigendum, but that's the only ISO Ada Standard document that 
I've seen.

                                Randy.




------  I  love  the  taste  of  Cryptanalysis  in  the morning!  ------
     <http://www.uni-weimar.de/cms/medien/mediensicherheit/home.html>
--Stefan.Lucks (at) uni-weimar.de, Bauhaus-Universität Weimar, Germany--


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-12  8:58       ` Stefan.Lucks
@ 2013-12-12 10:01         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
  2013-12-13  5:35         ` Randy Brukardt
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2013-12-12 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


Le Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:58:41 +0100, <Stefan.Lucks@uni-weimar.de> a écrit:

> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>
>> where the date is obvious. I've never looked into the actual Standard,  
>> not
>> having 238 CHF handy. :-), but I'd expect the document to have the same
>> date.
>
> Off-topic here ... but you where on the Commitee that wrote the standard,
> right? That makes you one of the authors of the standard. And ISO didn't
> bother to give you a copy for free? I am stunned!

Still off‑topic but to say it may be that: I knew (on the web only) a guy  
who wrote a music for a short film, “pro bono”, and he didn't even receive  
a free copy of the DVD to thanks him.

-- 
“Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.” [1]
“Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.” [1]
[1]: Epigrams on Programming — Alan J. — P. Yale University

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-12  3:14     ` Randy Brukardt
@ 2013-12-12  8:58       ` Stefan.Lucks
  2013-12-12 10:01         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
  2013-12-13  5:35         ` Randy Brukardt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Stefan.Lucks @ 2013-12-12  8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


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On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> where the date is obvious. I've never looked into the actual Standard, not
> having 238 CHF handy. :-), but I'd expect the document to have the same
> date.

Off-topic here ... but you where on the Commitee that wrote the standard, 
right? That makes you one of the authors of the standard. And ISO didn't 
bother to give you a copy for free? I am stunned!



------  I  love  the  taste  of  Cryptanalysis  in  the morning!  ------
     <http://www.uni-weimar.de/cms/medien/mediensicherheit/home.html>
--Stefan.Lucks (at) uni-weimar.de, Bauhaus-Universität Weimar, Germany--

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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-11 12:45   ` Britt
@ 2013-12-12  3:17     ` Randy Brukardt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2013-12-12  3:17 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Britt" <britt.snodgrass@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8a6e5bc6-16b5-4242-bfa1-610e2c2b7a75@googlegroups.com...
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-5, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> And Ada 2012 was officially standardized on this date in 2012 (last year). 
> Randy. (Yes, we asked that they do that, since it was going to be in 
> December anyway. And ISO said, no we have to issue everything on the 15th. 
> But when it came out, it was dated the 10th.)

>So why is the PDF Copy at 
>http://www.adaic.org/resources/add_content/standards/12rm/RM-Final.pdf
>dated "13 December 2012" (at the bottom of the pages)? I don't see a 
>different date anywhere else.

The free versions are not related to the official ISO versions. The date on 
the bottom is just a generation date that automatically added somewhere 
along the line; that's obviously the day that I generated it for posting. If 
I regenerated it today, it would have today's date.

The standardization date is the one on the ISO website, which I detailed in 
a different message.

                           Randy.


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-10 23:02   ` Jeffrey Carter
@ 2013-12-12  3:14     ` Randy Brukardt
  2013-12-12  8:58       ` Stefan.Lucks
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2013-12-12  3:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Jeffrey Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:l886h9$e3$1@dont-email.me...
> On 12/10/2013 02:54 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>
>>   (Yes, we asked that they do that, since it was going to be in December
>> anyway. And ISO said, no we have to issue everything on the 15th. But 
>> when
>> it came out, it was dated the 10th.)
>
> Cool. I remember it being the 15th. I hadn't heard that it ended up being 
> dated the 10th.

ISO.org has it listed as:

Stage: 60.60 (2012-12-10)

where the date is obvious. I've never looked into the actual Standard, not 
having 238 CHF handy. :-), but I'd expect the document to have the same 
date.

                            Randy.




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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-10 21:54 ` Randy Brukardt
  2013-12-10 23:02   ` Jeffrey Carter
@ 2013-12-11 12:45   ` Britt
  2013-12-12  3:17     ` Randy Brukardt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Britt @ 2013-12-11 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-5, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> And Ada 2012 was officially standardized on this date in 2012 (last year). Randy. (Yes, we asked that they do that, since it was going to be in December anyway. And ISO said, no we have to issue everything on the 15th. But when it came out, it was dated the 10th.)

So why is the PDF Copy at http://www.adaic.org/resources/add_content/standards/12rm/RM-Final.pdf dated "13 December 2012" (at the bottom of the pages)? I don't see a different date anywhere else.


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-10 21:54 ` Randy Brukardt
@ 2013-12-10 23:02   ` Jeffrey Carter
  2013-12-12  3:14     ` Randy Brukardt
  2013-12-11 12:45   ` Britt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2013-12-10 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 12/10/2013 02:54 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>
>   (Yes, we asked that they do that, since it was going to be in December
> anyway. And ISO said, no we have to issue everything on the 15th. But when
> it came out, it was dated the 10th.)

Cool. I remember it being the 15th. I hadn't heard that it ended up being dated 
the 10th.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"I've got to stay here, but there's no reason
why you folks shouldn't go out into the lobby
until this thing blows over."
Horse Feathers
50


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* Re: Happy Birthday, Ada!
  2013-12-10 16:46 Jeffrey Carter
@ 2013-12-10 21:54 ` Randy Brukardt
  2013-12-10 23:02   ` Jeffrey Carter
  2013-12-11 12:45   ` Britt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Randy Brukardt @ 2013-12-10 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


And Ada 2012 was officially standardized on this date in 2012 (last year).

                      Randy.

 (Yes, we asked that they do that, since it was going to be in December 
anyway. And ISO said, no we have to issue everything on the 15th. But when 
it came out, it was dated the 10th.)

"Jeffrey Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:l87ghs$e98$1@dont-email.me...
> Ada (the woman) was born on this date in 1815.
>
> Ada (the language) was born on this date in 1980.
>
> -- 
> Jeff Carter
> "I've got to stay here, but there's no reason
> why you folks shouldn't go out into the lobby
> until this thing blows over."
> Horse Feathers
> 50 


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* Happy Birthday, Ada!
@ 2013-12-10 16:46 Jeffrey Carter
  2013-12-10 21:54 ` Randy Brukardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2013-12-10 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ada (the woman) was born on this date in 1815.

Ada (the language) was born on this date in 1980.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"I've got to stay here, but there's no reason
why you folks shouldn't go out into the lobby
until this thing blows over."
Horse Feathers
50


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2013-12-12  3:14     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-12-12  8:58       ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-12-12 10:01         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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