From: "Jeffrey R.Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.acm.org.not>
Subject: Re: Ada needs some modernization
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 21:00:31 +0200 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <75d90749-242f-42b8-ba0b-299f7ac693e0n@googlegroups.com>
On 2022-05-31 19:54, Matt Borchers wrote:
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> What amendment can we suggest to the Ada syntax so the if expression be better written when used in an if statement? I know other languages support this and it often looks like A ? B : C or something similar. That's certainly not Ada-like IMO, but I can't think of something better. These same languages often also have a null check operator A ?? B (where A and B are access types of the the same Type) such that if A is not null then A is returned otherwise B is returned. So useful and helpful!
What you call "modernization" looks to me a lot like "repeating mistakes that
Ritchie made over 50 years ago".
"A ? B : C"? Or is it "A : B ? C"? If only there were a less cryptic, easier to
remember and understand way to express it. Something like "(if A then B else
C)", for example.
"A ?? B" might be "useful and helpful" if you use (or think in) a language with
pointers to objects everywhere, but in a language where such pointers are never
needed, like Ada, it is neither, especially since a conditional expression would
handle it just fine if it were ever needed.
> I often find myself writing a loop to search ...
When you write something for a second time, it's a signal to create a subprogram
or package to avoid writing it a third time.
--
Jeff Carter
"You empty-headed animal-food-trough wiper."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-31 17:54 Ada needs some modernization Matt Borchers
2022-05-31 19:05 ` Gautier write-only address
2022-05-31 19:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-05-31 22:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-01 7:24 ` John McCabe
2022-06-01 19:00 ` Jeffrey R.Carter [this message]
2022-06-02 5:56 ` G.B.
2022-06-10 16:38 ` Brad Moore
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