From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-65-14.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,FUZZY_IMPORTANT, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Carbon Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:23:21 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <993af397-b615-44e7-ae8d-ec706f9b6098n@googlegroups.com> <5f819cdd-e763-4a96-aed5-545d57edac23n@googlegroups.com> <877d2u21ps.fsf@nightsong.com> <8735di1y6a.fsf@nightsong.com> <87ler9ywye.fsf@nightsong.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 00:23:23 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="540bec0664a3fed56c5bc4112da1ca1f"; logging-data="2821900"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EcRKnfnLtmOjSgCc+28S/S4cHuZr8q3U=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:EiHlLX+OI2GAlOVx98wB4nhqs0c= X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.7246 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:64282 List-Id: "Niklas Holsti" wrote in message news:jneucmFn478U1@mid.individual.net... > On 2022-09-02 17:59, J-P. Rosen wrote: >> Le 02/09/2022 à 16:18, G.B. a écrit : >>> On 01.09.22 08:46, J-P. Rosen wrote: >>>> Le 28/08/2022 à 19:34, G.B. a écrit : >>>>> Also the convenience of being able to compare two objects for >>>>> being the same object, using "===" in some languages---out of the box! >>>>> >>>>> procedure same_object (A : T; B in out T) is >>>>> begin >>>>> what_do_i_put_here; -- ? >>>> A'Has_Same_Storage (B); >>>>> end same_object; >>>> >>>> Of course, this procedure should be a function... >>> >>> Cool, new attributes. Not very new, these were added in Ada 2012. They were considered inportant for some preconditions. >>> >>> Is the expectation that A and B occupy the same >>> bits if I pass the same X as an actual for both? >> Yes. > > > Surely only if their type (T, above) is passed by-reference? > > G.B.'s post had a later example where T is "range 1 .. 10", which is a > by-copy type, so there A and B would be separate copies of X. Agreed. Parameters of a by-copy type are separate objects from the actual objects. Parameters of a by-reference type (like tagged types) are the same objects. Parameters of types which are not specified as either may or may not be new objects. And of course, Has_Same_Storage only if true when an object is not copied. So the technique shown only certainly works for by-reference types. The compiler can copy other types when it wants, so it isn't meaningful to compare objects (only values). Randy.