From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-65-14.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!Lx7EM+81f32E0bqku+QpCA.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Luke A. Guest" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Post-Ada at Ada-Europe 2023 anyone? Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 18:08:18 +0000 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <16f9680d-de3e-43b3-91ea-86d86532e397n@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="17242"; posting-host="Lx7EM+81f32E0bqku+QpCA.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Content-Language: en-GB Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:64719 List-Id: On 21/12/2022 17:25, Marius Amado-Alves wrote: > Would anyone be interested in co-organizing or attending a Post-Ada workshop at Ada-Europe 2023 (Lisbon, 13-16 June)? > Any thoughts appreciated. I probably won't be able to attend, my life is pretty much being destroyed right now. > The "Post-Ada" concept has been debated here in CLA. It encompasses lessons learnt from the three decade long Ada experiment, ideas for betterment of the language, and creation of languages anew, like Parasail and King. Really? No love for my "mad" :) ramblings? https://github.com/Lucretia/orenda > One way to approach the 'problem' would be to classify features of Ada as "keep, kill, or to be improved," for example: > - loop statements: keep > - function expressions: keep > - cursors: kill > - attributes vs. operations (tick vs. dot): kill Wrong. Attributes are a really interesting and useful part of Ada and the solution in Orenda to getting addresses of objects, aspects would enable setting them on creation. > - inheritance: to be improved > - Unicode characters and strings: to be improved Should be the basis of all text. > A general issue could be to compare or harmonize this approach with the future (?) revision of Ada via Ada Issues. Personally I feel Ada (202X) is already too big to grow anymore. I suspect compiler maintainers would agree, and hope they could participate (sponsor?) Won't happen, I've mentioned it before and was told it was not going to happen. Luke.