From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c23311c4d57b937e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.zanker.org!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder2.news.jippii.net!feeder1.news.jippii.net!nntp.inet.fi!central1.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Sender: AWI003@FIW9430 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada References: <414B6E62.9070402@acm.org> <0hL2d.762$QB1.501@trndny02> <414E2306.6030404@acm.org> <8%q3d.1820$kn2.1441@trndny07> <414EE3A0.9080106@acm.org> <1095728821.921629@yasure> From: Anders Wirzenius Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:08:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.251.142.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1095847705 194.251.142.2 (Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:08:25 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:08:25 EEST Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3925 Date: 2004-09-22T10:08:25+00:00 List-Id: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" writes: > Benjamin Ketcham wrote: > > > How long does someone who actually knows Ada (not me) think it > > would take to translate the kernel to Ada? > > I think this process is the wrong way to put something into > Ada. Ada can be made to look like a C program, but I don't > see any benefit to that. > > Only by redesign, in Ada terms (not C ones), does such a > project have any useful outcome. For this you toss away > the C code, and design from the requirements. And what > I am suggesting is that you don't need the Linux kernel > to dictate your requirements. > I am not a programming lecturer. I got an impression that there are some persons participating in c.l.a who are giving Ada lectures. I want to raise a question about the "useful outcome": Couldn't a useful outcome be the learning process that comes out of a study where you rewrite a piece of code in Ada, first as a so called line-by-line translation and then as a programming project where you do it from the requirements? The first mentioned step will certainly raise a bunch of questions about the differences between the [programming language] way and the Ada way. The questions are then answered while doing the second step. The Linux kernel is of course a too big piece for such a project. Anders