From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-08 12:29:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? (long) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:24:21 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3E148004.5000408@cogeco.ca> <3E15CF31.1020900@cogeco.ca> <3E19C980.6060902@cogeco.ca> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3719.2500 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32769 Date: 2003-01-08T14:24:21-06:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote in message ... >Obviously, you can't speak for all vendors, but you could speak for at least >*one* vendor. :-) (Probably, you also talk to most of the other ones with >your involvement in other areas of Ada.) Would there be any sympathy on the >part of the vendors (or RR Software?) to get some sort of "Conventional Ada >Library" going under the auspices of SIGAda? Would there be some willingness >on the part of the vendors (or RR Software) to distribute such a library? I'm sure the vendors are in favor of someone doing that. But it will need to be vendor-neutral -- it does no good if most of the code only compiles with GNAT. Then vendors will say -- yet another hobbyest library for GNAT -- and ignore it. I'll reiterate that our experience with Claw is that GNAT is no better or worse than other Ada compilers for bugs. It allows some illegal code, won't compile some legal code, etc. In order to have something useful to end users, it really has to be the case that you can pick up the packages off of the SigAda web site and use them, no matter what Ada compiler you are using. For that to be the case, they have to have been compiled successfully with at least 3 different Ada compilers. Of course, some compilers may be just too buggy or limited to work with some software. I suspect just making the code work on GNAT, ObjectAda, and Rational Apex would be enough. You may not want to be restricted to the least common denominator code (like we did with Claw). Anyway, RRS would distribute such a library if it made sense, and making it work did not take up too many resources. After all, given: 10 bugs reported by customers; 10 bugs in new ACATS tests; and 10 bugs in a pseudo-standard library it's fairly likely that work on the library will be later in the list. :-) Randy Brukardt