From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,243dc2fb696a49cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsr1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!carbon.eu.sun.com!new-usenet.uk.sun.com!not-for-mail From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Popularity: Comparison of Ada/Charles with C++ STL (and Perl) Date: 23 Sep 2004 13:27:23 +0200 Organization: Sun Microsystems Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: khepri06.norway.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: new-usenet.uk.sun.com 1095938845 4881 129.159.112.195 (23 Sep 2004 11:27:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@new-usenet.uk.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2004 11:27:25 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4012 Date: 2004-09-23T11:27:25+00:00 List-Id: >>>>> "KC" == Kevin Cline writes: >> >> Does this prove that perl is the best language? If so, perhaps we >> should all switch our avionics projects over to perl. Must be it will >> be easier to code and maintain, safer to fly, and run just as fast. KC> It doesn't prove that Perl is the best language for every job. But KC> the original thread was about Ada popularity. Relatively few people KC> write avionics code, or any safety-critical software. I do think that KC> a lot of projects currently being written in C++, Java, or C# could be KC> done much more cheaply and effectively in Perl or a similar language. >> >> The things that make a language a "good" language are many and >> complex, and are different in different circumstances. If I need a >> small utility that compares lines in different text files, I find perl >> much easier than Ada. On the other hand, if I have a very large >> project that must always perform "correctly", I've not found a >> language that can beat Ada. KC> But large projects in Ada or C++ or Java or C# might be small or KC> medium-sized projects in a higher-level language. Maybe. It depends on how large the projcet is, and how good you are to create reusable components/abstractions within the project, and how good a fit your problem is to the facilites provided by the "higher-level" language. KC> If you have a project that must always perform "correctly", then you KC> better prove it correct. Strong typing can help, but is not KC> absolutely necessary to that effort. KC> For the rest of us, the most important thing is to get tested code KC> done quickly. I don't know about you, but I can write and test 14 KC> lines of code a whole lot faster than I can write and test 80 or 160. I usually find that my ability to create programs is limited by my thought process, not my typing speed :-) -- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade.