Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

[Robert Dewar]

I certainly think it can only help to drop CD Roms around the place. However,
I think people are fooling themselves if they think that small steps like this
can make a significant difference. Mostly I think they just make people feel'go
od that *something* is being done 
(sort of like security at US airports).

That doesn't mean I discourage people doing these kind of things, it's just
that I hope that it does not substitute for effective action and policy.

Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

[David Tannen]

Maybe as Ada software engineers we could all donate $2 to the 
"Johnny AdaSeed" project.  I wonder if a non-profit corp. could be
setup to do this and form the umbrella "Ada Business Council" group
Greg was talking about.

What does anyone think of this idea?

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Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

[Michael Feldman]

In article <1993Sep3.194745.11488@schbbs.mot.com> tannen@tigger.geg.mot.com wri
tes:
>Maybe as Ada software engineers we could all donate $2 to the 
>"Johnny AdaSeed" project.  I wonder if a non-profit corp. could be
>setup to do this and form the umbrella "Ada Business Council" group
>Greg was talking about.
>
>What does anyone think of this idea?
>
Count me in.

Mike Feldman
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Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

[Michael Feldman]

In article <26839p$uv@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wri
tes:

[deletia]

>That doesn't mean I discourage people doing these kind of things, it's just
>that I hope that it does not substitute for effective action and policy.
>
Generally you post to this group only to respond critically to someone else's
post. I think it would be very helpful, given your long Ada history and
influence in many quarters, if you posted a constructive note to the net
suggesting just what you think "effective action and policy" should be.
Undoubtedly you've thought about this a lot, Robert. Can you share it
with us?

Mike Feldman

Re: Johnny AdaSeed (aka Greg Aharonian)

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>From article <26839p$uv@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu>, by dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dew
ar):
> I certainly think it can only help to drop CD Roms around the place. However,
> I think people are fooling themselves if they think that small steps like thi
s
> can make a significant difference. Mostly I think they just make people feel'
good that *something* is being done 
> (sort of like security at US airports).
> 
> That doesn't mean I discourage people doing these kind of things, it's just
> that I hope that it does not substitute for effective action and policy.
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Care to make some recommendations?  Seriously, I don't mean to flame on 
here, but what do you consider effective action?  I agree with Bluto
Blutarsky of "Animal House", this situation calls for an incredibly foolish
act on someone's part.  Seems to me that the CD Rom thing qualifies.

 
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