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From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: How to run a GNAT program without starting a terminal session
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-07-18T09:41:12-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d331ee6-6436-4a3f-8d08-5934a93f16b6@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pimqn5$dr9$1@dont-email.me>

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 1:37:10 AM UTC-6, björn lundin wrote:
> On 2018-07-17 23:12, Shark8 wrote:
> > A lot of the cases I've seen where daemons are used/needed are because the language [PHP in this case] didn't have any notion of TASKs and DELAYs -- rather frustrating to come across when it's so trivially easy in Ada.
> 
> No, that is not it at all.
> A daemon is a detached background process, like services are on windows.

I never said it wasn't.
What I said was that the lack of TASK and DELAY necessitated the use of daemons in several PHP-based systems I've worked on.

> They have no user interface and are supposed to run a long time.
> webservers, mailservers etc are typically daemons.
So are things that (eg) clean the cache, ensure that some particular process is still active, and/or start some processing at timed intervals; I've seen each of these as a daemon, often as part of a larger system where a TASK and/or TASK/DELAY combo would be appropriate.

> Has absolutely nothing to do whit language/tasks/delays at all
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computing%29>
Again, look at the above, think in terms of whole system; even if the 'system' includes manual administration. You're reading what I said backwards: it's not that Daemons are about TASK, it's that daemons are needed because the particular systems I was involved in had no notion of multi-threading and instead stitched together a system emulating it [as some level] via daemons.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-18 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-17  1:20 How to run a GNAT program without starting a terminal session Jerry
2018-07-17  4:35 ` Jerry
2018-07-17  9:55 ` AdaMagica
2018-07-17 10:08   ` Jerry
2018-07-17 10:23     ` Jerry
2018-07-17 13:13     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-17 12:46 ` Björn Lundin
2018-07-17 16:20   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-17 21:10     ` Jerry
2018-07-18  6:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-19  1:41         ` Jerry
2018-07-19  2:31           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-17 21:07   ` Jerry
2018-07-17 21:12     ` Shark8
2018-07-17 21:56       ` Jerry
2018-07-18  1:33         ` Shark8
2018-07-18  7:37       ` Björn Lundin
2018-07-18 16:41         ` Shark8 [this message]
2018-07-18 21:18         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-19  6:59           ` Jerry
2018-07-19 15:25             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-19 16:50             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-19 20:47               ` Jerry
2018-07-19  1:47         ` Jerry
2018-07-17 18:21 ` Shark8
2018-07-17 20:53   ` Jerry
2018-07-18 16:34     ` Shark8
2018-07-18 20:30       ` Björn Lundin
2018-07-18 21:09         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-18 21:41           ` Bill Findlay
2018-07-19  2:13             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-19  2:40           ` Jerry
2018-07-19  3:19             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-19  2:57 ` Jerry
2018-07-19  7:20   ` Björn Lundin
2018-07-19 11:30     ` Jerry
2018-07-19 16:40       ` Björn Lundin
2018-07-19 20:46         ` Jerry
2018-07-20  7:32           ` Björn Lundin
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