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From: intros@cscns.com (Introspect Technologies)
Subject: Re: ARPA still undermining Ada
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 06:50:26 GMT
Date: 1994-10-27T06:50:26+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CyBKC2.C60@usa.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Cy5nxM.pn@research.att.com

Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760 (bs@research.att.com) wrote:

: intros@cscns.com (Introspect Technologies) writes

:  > Jay Martin (jmartin@oahu.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
:  > : So what language does Stallman like?  Surely it is not brain-dead crap
:  > : like C,LISP and UNIX.  Inquiring minds want to know! Jay
:  > 
:  > [snip]
:  > RMS was quite contemptuous of C++ in his remarks.  He felt that C++ had
:  > some serious deficiencies.  G++ included some "fixes" but if the user
:  > wanted "standard" C++ features, they could invoke the "BS" switch.  RMS
:  > said that he had expressed his concerns to Bjarne but was told "If you
:  > think you can do it better, go ahead".  (Caveat: see above.)

: That description does not square with my recollection.

: [more snip]... I doubt the whole exchange lasted five minutes.

: Why do I bother commenting? After all, what rms and I said or didn't
: say to each other back in the dark ages can be of little interest today.
: However, the myths that seems to sourround every programming language
: tend to obscure the language itself to people with only casual acquaintance
: with it, and are seldom helpful to anyone. Sometimes - far too rarely -
: facts help avoid myths caused by random guessing about the reasons
: various things are the way they are.

: 	- Bjarne

Thanks for commenting.  I've often wondered what the exchange was really 
like.  There are always (at least) two perspectives to any event and, for 
the reasons you state, your perspective is valuable in helping the rest 
of us comprehend the dynamics of our computer community.

Douglas Arndt (member, Team Ada!)
Introspect Technologies, Inc.
PO Box 1135
Colorado Springs, CO  80901-1135
(719) 634-5744
(719) 634-1163 fax
intros@usa.net

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  reply	other threads:[~1994-10-27  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Cx94z7.Jn7@world.std.com>
     [not found] ` <37ab0v$n82@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
     [not found]   ` <37bph1$naq@gnat.cs.nyu.edu>
1994-10-11 16:01     ` ARPA still undermining Ada Thomas Hood 913-4501
1994-10-12  9:50       ` Tarjei Jensen
1994-10-12 22:02         ` Charles Stump
1994-10-14  6:27         ` Dennis Troup
1994-10-16  7:02       ` Jason Elliot Robbins
1994-10-17 14:13       ` Michael Feldman
1994-10-18 17:53         ` Arcadia Sandy Wise
1994-10-11 17:01     ` ARPA still undermining Ada Kevin Priest~
1994-10-11 19:49       ` Robert Dewar
1994-10-12  9:43         ` Tarjei Jensen
1994-10-12 13:08           ` Robert Dewar
1994-10-12 13:22             ` Richard Kenner
     [not found]             ` <37gnv0$j5u@cmcl2.nyu.edu>
1994-10-17 14:25               ` Michael Feldman
1994-10-17 19:09                 ` Richard Kenner
1994-10-17 19:14                 ` Jay Martin
1994-10-18  1:47                   ` John M. Mills
1994-10-18 11:19                     ` Richard Kenner
1994-10-18 17:12                     ` Kevin Cline
1994-10-18  2:10                   ` Richard Kenner
1994-10-18 16:35                   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                   ` <Cy2BnF.G8A@usa.net>
1994-10-24  2:22                     ` Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760
1994-10-27  6:50                       ` Introspect Technologies [this message]
1994-10-27 16:52                       ` Richard G. Hash
1994-10-27 17:39                       ` RMS's response to "Re: ARPA still undermining Ada" Richard Kenner
     [not found]                 ` <37ui4p$rd4@cmcl2.nyu.edu>
1994-10-18 16:25                   ` ARPA still undermining Ada Michael Feldman
1994-10-12 19:13       ` Mark C. Chu-Carroll
1994-10-13  3:55         ` Robert Dewar
1994-10-17 14:35           ` Michael Feldman
1994-10-18 16:39             ` Robert Dewar
1994-10-19  1:05               ` Michael Feldman
1994-10-13 15:42 Dennis Heimbigner
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