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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Ada?
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:39:41 -0500
Date: 2002-03-20T17:39:42+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7ahgu$9fb$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com

You're right - this isn't the forum for politics.

a) Not all Ada jobs in the USA are in defense/government related projects -
hence its up to the company in question as to whether or not they want to
hire a foreign national & up to INS, et alia, to decide if you can get into
the country and legally work.

b) Not all defense/government related work that may be done in Ada is going
to be classified, or classified at a level that precludes foreign nationals
from holding those jobs. Hence, go back to "a" above.

c) Some defense/government related work *is* going to be done at a
classification level that precludes foreign nationals even if they do have
work permits from INS, permenent resident status, etc. (Try getting a job as
an airline baggage handler without citizenship these days. :-)

d) Not all Ada work is done in the USA - in fact there might be reasons to
suspect that Ada is more popular outside the US than in the land of its
birth. So don't preclude the possibility of looking for Ada work wherever
you live.

e) In countries where Free Enterprise is not against the law, it is always
possible to invent your own job. If you like working in Ada and have some
notion of how you could create a business that would do that, you might be
quite successful & have a job working with Ada at that point. You can do
that in any place where you can identify a need & go about filling it. (BTW:
If the object of the game is to get into the US, rather than simply to
program in Ada, this is one method of gaining entry. That is to say,
bringing a business into the US - or partnering in a business, etc.)

MDC
--
Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail:    marin.condic@pacemicro.com


"Adrian Hoe" <byhoe@greenlime.com> wrote in message
news:3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com...
> Ted Dennison wrote:
> >
> >
> > The fact of the matter is that the USA is a *nation* of immigrants.
> > Anyone who thinks we are somehow "against" the rest of the world
> > doesn't really appreciate the situation.
>
>
> I know, I know... This isn't the right place to talk about politics
> here. But since Ted has posted his view, I just would like to comment.
> :)
>
> Ted is right that USA is a land of freedom and a nation of immigrants.
> There are many opportunities there if one is willing to leave his home
> and come to USA! I think everyone in this world appreciate this
> situation but disagree on USA political base.
>
> I have many many friends in USA, and that includes Americans, Jamaicans,
> Germans, Malaysians!, Chinese and Vietnamese and even CLA. I like
> America but I personally disagree her politically. (I am not a
> politician, ok? This is just my personal point of view :)
>
> I had got a consulting job (doing Ada) in USA couple years back but I
> did not take up the offer simply because it took too much hassle to get
> a working visa. But that did not stop me doing Ada. With my free spirit
> roaming and the current trend of globalization and with the Internet,
> the world is equivalent, I think.
> --
>                                        -- Adrian Hoe
>                                        -- http://adrianhoe.com





  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-20 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-19 21:21 Ada? anymous
2002-02-19 22:02 ` Ada? chris.danx
2002-02-19 23:38 ` Ada? Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-24  3:23 ` Ada? Nick Roberts
2002-02-24 15:09   ` Ada? Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-27 15:26   ` Ada? Enrico A.
2002-03-19 15:06     ` Ada? Colin Paul Gloster
2002-03-19 20:57       ` Ada? Ted Dennison
2002-03-19 22:00         ` Ada? Dan Andreatta
2002-03-19 23:45           ` Ada? Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-20 14:26           ` Ada? Ted Dennison
     [not found]             ` <3C98E9CC.45D733F2@west.raytheon.com>
2002-03-21  9:39               ` Ada? Preben Randhol
2002-03-20  2:08         ` Ada? Adrian Hoe
2002-03-20 17:39           ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2002-03-22  1:56             ` Ada? Adrian Hoe
2002-03-22  2:34               ` Ada? Richard Riehle
2002-03-21 15:12           ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Ted Dennison
2002-03-20  1:41     ` Ada? Adrian Hoe
2002-03-20  2:34       ` Ada? DPH
2002-03-20 10:52       ` Ada? Reinert Korsnes
2002-03-20 13:32       ` Ada? Gary Scott
2002-02-27 21:37 ` Ada? Ken Pinard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-22  6:54 Ada? Christoph Grein
     [not found] <200203220654.HAA11171@bulgaria.otn.eurocopter.de>
2002-03-22  7:58 ` Ada? sk
     [not found] ` <3C9AE426.471865A1@myob.com>
2002-03-22  8:05   ` Ada? sk
2002-03-22  8:29 Ada? Christoph Grein
2002-03-22 14:57 ` Ada? Ted Dennison
2002-03-22 15:34   ` Ada? Jean-Pierre Rosen
     [not found] <200203220829.JAA11725@bulgaria.otn.eurocopter.de>
2002-03-22 15:55 ` Ada? sk
2004-10-22 13:22 Ada# fabio de francesco
2004-10-22 13:36 ` Ada# Marc A. Criley
2020-05-28 22:33 Ada++ Jerry
2020-05-29  2:09 ` Ada++ Nasser M. Abbasi
2020-05-29  2:57   ` Ada++ Rick Newbie
2020-05-29  9:49     ` Ada++ raph.amiard
2020-05-29  9:51     ` Ada++ gautier_niouzes
2020-05-30  1:32       ` Ada++ Rick Newbie
2020-05-30  6:52         ` Ada++ gautier_niouzes
2020-05-30  7:04           ` Ada++ Rick Newbie
2020-05-30  7:31           ` Ada++ Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]           ` <rb05fk$l5r$1@dont-email.me>
2020-05-31 21:20             ` Ada++ gautier_niouzes
2020-05-29 10:36     ` Ada++ Luke A. Guest
2020-05-30  1:35       ` Ada++ Rick Newbie
2020-05-29 11:09     ` Ada++ Björn Lundin
2020-05-29 12:31       ` Ada++ Nasser M. Abbasi
2020-05-29 21:57       ` Ada++ Optikos
2020-05-31 11:40         ` Ada++ Björn Lundin
2020-05-31 15:51           ` Ada++ J-P. Rosen
2020-05-30  1:36       ` Ada++ Rick Newbie
2020-05-29  3:45 ` Ada++ Optikos
2020-05-29 15:41   ` Ada++ Optikos
2020-05-29  3:54 ` Ada++ cantanima.perry
2020-05-29 10:41   ` Ada++ Luke A. Guest
2020-05-29  4:17 ` Ada++ Wesley Pan
2020-05-29  4:38   ` Ada++ Nasser M. Abbasi
2020-05-29  6:06     ` Ada++ J-P. Rosen
2020-05-29  6:56       ` Ada++ Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-29  7:22         ` Ada++ J-P. Rosen
2020-05-29  9:23       ` Ada++ fabien.chouteau
2020-05-29  9:43         ` Ada++ raph.amiard
2020-05-29 10:27           ` Ada++ Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-29 11:00             ` Ada++ Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-29 20:57           ` Ada++ J-P. Rosen
2020-06-13  9:40       ` Ada++ Nasser M. Abbasi
2020-06-13 10:03         ` Ada++ gautier_niouzes
2020-06-13 10:11           ` Ada++ Nasser M. Abbasi
2020-06-13 10:07         ` Ada++ Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-06-14  5:29         ` Ada++ J-P. Rosen
2020-05-30 15:25 ` Ada++ ric.wai88
2020-05-30 17:02   ` Ada++ Stéphane Rivière
2020-05-30 20:56   ` Ada++ Optikos
2020-05-30 21:58     ` Ada++ ric.wai88
2020-06-05 22:37       ` Ada++ Randy Brukardt
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