Programming language popularity ranking

Programming language popularity ranking

[Manuel G. R.]

Please, check this language popularity ranking: 
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm

Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible.

Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I 
suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in 
Ada popularity, or should we disregard the ranking?

Are there other rankings to compare?

Regards.

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Manuel G. R.]

Martin Krischik wrote:
> Jeffrey Carter wrote:
> 
>>What can we make of this site's objectivity?
>>
>>"February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#".
> 
> 
>>Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have
>>dropped.
> 
> 
> "We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++, C#
> and Java."
> 
> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided
> to add "Ada programming" to my signature.

Me too.

Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the 
algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident.

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Martin Krischik]

Manuel G. R. wrote:

> Please, check this language popularity ranking:
> http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm
> 
> Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible.

Well this one counts "Ada programming" on google - fairly easy to cheat. As
soon as I found out about that ranking I made shure that all
Programming:Ada pages on wikibooks have that text now ;-).

And there are 97 right now
(http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Category:Ada_programming_language).

For you spanish wikibook it is of corse more difficult to add the english
text "Ada programming". 

> Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I
> suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in
> Ada popularity, or should we disregard the ranking?

We lost 5 positions - over a year - and that is indeed bad. When I did a
"Ada tutorial" research for
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada:Tutorials I noticed that a lot
of tutorials have become off line which might account for the change.

> Are there other rankings to compare?

Would be interesting to know.

Martin
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mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
http://www.ada.krischik.com

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Jeffrey Carter]

Manuel G. R. wrote:

> Please, check this language popularity ranking: 
> http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm

What can we make of this site's objectivity?

"February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#".

Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have 
dropped.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Blessed is just about anyone with a vested interest in the status quo."
Monty Python's Life of Brian
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Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Jeff C]

"Manuel G. R." <mgrojo@ya.com> wrote in message 
news:cu8gdf$fgm$1@news.ya.com...
> Please, check this language popularity ranking: 
> http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm
>
> Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible.
>
> Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I 
> suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in Ada 
> popularity, or should we disregard the ranking?
>
> Are there other rankings to compare?
>
> Regards.

I dunno but everyone grab an book ABAP according to the site.

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Martin Krischik]

Jeffrey Carter wrote:

> Manuel G. R. wrote:
> 
>> Please, check this language popularity ranking:
>> http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm
> 
> What can we make of this site's objectivity?
> 
> "February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#".

> Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have
> dropped.

"We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++, C#
and Java."

What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided
to add "Ada programming" to my signature.

Martin
-- 
mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Manuel G. R.]

Martin Krischik wrote:
> Manuel G. R. wrote:
 >
>>Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the
>>algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident.
> 
> 
> Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv".
> 

Aah, I didn't understand why they were adding -tv. Why remove tv and not 
any other word not apparently related with programming? I think they 
chose whatever favour most to C.

> I for one will drop them a mail. BTW: Ada has such a hard hit because of the
> use of Ada in tv satelites and tv satelite receivers. Pages on that
> subjecte are not counted. And I will point that out to them - if it helps I
> don't know.

Good luck, but will they seek another magic word just because of Ada?

-- 
Ada programming tutorial: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada
Tutorial de programaci�n en Ada: 
http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programaci%C3%B3n_en_Ada

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Martin Krischik]

Manuel G. R. wrote:

> Martin Krischik wrote:
>> Jeffrey Carter wrote:
>> 
>>>What can we make of this site's objectivity?
>>>
>>>"February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#".
>> 
>> 
>>>Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have
>>>dropped.
>> 
>> 
>> "We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++,
>> C# and Java."

Look closely: "C, C++, C# and Java." not "Java, C, C++ and C#." Maybe they
changed the algorithm to fit there buisiness aim.

>> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I
>> decided to add "Ada programming" to my signature.
> 
> Me too.
> 
> Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the
> algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident.

Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv".

+"Ada programming" 52.000
+"Ada programming" -tv 46,800
Impact 10%

+"ABAP programming" 43,400 
+"ABAP programming" -tv  42,300
Impact 2.5%

+"C programming"  1,580,000
+"C programming" -tv  1,480,000
Impact 6,3%

Yet another mytery solved. Remeber the green and red arrows are calculated
over the year not the month! Never trust a statistic you have not
falseified yourself.

Of corse this has been a google search only. To see the hole picture one
need to make searches on MSN, Yahoo and google groups.

But I did make little test on +tv - there are many legitimate sites having
both programming and tv.

The real problem is that we did such a check and now how cheaty the stats
are - but the seminformed do not.

I for one will drop them a mail. BTW: Ada has such a hard hit because of the
use of Ada in tv satelites and tv satelite receivers. Pages on that
subjecte are not counted. And I will point that out to them - if it helps I
don't know.

Martin
-- 
mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Gautier]

Martin Krischik:

> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided
> to add "Ada programming" to my signature.

Not bad! First copycat below :-)
Another trick is to put "Ada programming" with background
colour on web pages. With customized gnathtml.pl's you even
produce tons of such pages...
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Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Martin Krischik]

Gautier wrote:

> Martin Krischik:
> 
>> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I
>> decided to add "Ada programming" to my signature.
> 
> Not bad! First copycat below :-)
> Another trick is to put "Ada programming" with background
> colour on web pages.

Beware: some search engines have learned the foreground = background trick!

> With customized gnathtml.pl's you even 
> produce tons of such pages...

http://adacl.sourceforge.net/html/main.htm :-)

Martin 
-- 
mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com

Re: Programming language popularity ranking

[Martin Krischik]

Manuel G. R. wrote:

> Martin Krischik wrote:
>> Manuel G. R. wrote:
>  >
>>>Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the
>>>algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident.

>> Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv".
 
> Aah, I didn't understand why they were adding -tv. Why remove tv and not
> any other word not apparently related with programming?

It is probably an anti SPAM measurement. You see there is this country which
could lucky with "tv" as there country shortcut. They don't need that many
web sites so they sell www.XXX.tv to everyone who is willing to pay.

> I think they 
> chose whatever favour most to C.

C is also a system programming language - so C is hit as well. The real
gainer is of corse ABAP.

Martin

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Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com